Quest log Confusion

[Nathan]

I have just completed the battle with the Seer Lords (end of Ep3 I believe), and went to check my quest logs to plan my next steps.
I noticed that I have an Ep3 check:
"We slew Hagathrum, the Ninth Son, and ended his time in our world. His lineage will carry on without him, and the time of the Gods has passed from our world."
- This is correct

Currently my last entry is:
"We shared our sad news of Nikolai's death with the god Hagathrum and Gaqron Tazzer.  Weakened, and bound to the Temple of Law, we allowed Hagathrum to live out his day life with the same grace and righteousness that Nikolai showed us.  Ultimately, he and his lineage will fade from the world."
This in not possible because:
1. I already killed Hagathrum
2. I have just jumped down the hole into the Undercity Foundations, and have not made it back to the rest of the world

The 2 logs prior to that are:
"Nikolai has told us a moving and powerful secret..."
-and-
"We fought the three Seer Lords..."
I took a screenshot of the last 3 checked Ep3 quest logs that I could send if that would help

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I wasn't sure if this should be a separate post, but...

There are also 2 Ep2 entries that look like they will not be closed (but should be):
"We could travel east to the city of Brunehorn and meet with Baron Koda to ensure that Rabiel cannot cast his net of deception over another Baron."
-and-
"We should regroup at the Brunehorn inn and discuss our options in regards to Knight Marko DeVaan's offer to enter the City of the Dead under the Koda banner."

During that point in the game I was trying to see if there was a way to go in under both banners, so I did a lot of running back and forth between the 2 sides before finally deciding to go in under the Braeys banner. I did stay at both inns several times in an attempt to remove the entry.

I have just jumped down the hole into the Undercity Foundations fleeing the City of the Dead

Samsung Note 4

Android 6.0.1

App version 4.2.79

[fallen]

Nathan - thanks for the post. This may be an important clue to unraveling some bug in this area that we've been chasing for some time.

To confirm, you are still in the depths of the City of the Dead, at that start of E4?

[Nathan]

Yes, at this point I have just finished clearing the Undercity Foundation, but when I first noticed the incorrect log about reporting Nikoali's death, I was in Sheltered Sanctuary either just before the conversation with Rythein (when the deadening field expands), or just after the ensuing battle. Somewhere in those 2 windows is where I went through the logs so I could start planning my next steps.

[fallen]

Nathan - thank you very much. That will help limit down the search of where the bug is, and I hope that I will be able to fix it. As you had already made your choice about Hagathrun, this should have no effect on your game, other than errant quest log.

[Nathan]

No worries, and good luck!
It's good to know that this should not have any effect on the game play story. Should I Keep my eyes open for for anything in particular to confirm the story played out as it should have? Maybe hide the answer to that question in a spoiler alert - after I do x, Spoiler Alert - this should have happened.

Any word on the second part of my initial post? Should I have that part - the Ep2 log question in another thread?

[fallen]

Nathan - thanks for pointing out the E2 question again. I missed that somehow. I took #HOS-3392 to investigate this one ... those are truly just lingering and will have no effect.

It sounds like, from the report you've shared so far, that all the parts of the story related to Hagathrun have played out as they should have!

[Nathan]

Adding this in case it is relevant to this issue, and to ensure the story related to Hagathrun, Nikolai and his father is playing out correctly.

I dropped by Gholla Outlook on my way back from the Ancient Monastery. In front of the Temple of Law, there was a 'clicking' sound as if something had happened (maybe a log update - didn't notice a log update when I checked), and there were no dialog options available to me upon entering the temple.

[fallen]

Feb 9, 2017 5:00:40 GMT -5 Nathan said:

Adding this in case it is relevant to this issue, and to ensure the story related to Hagathrun, Nikolai and his father is playing out correctly.

I dropped by Gholla Outlook on my way back from the Ancient Monastery. In front of the Temple of Law, there was a 'clicking' sound as if something had happened (maybe a log update - didn't notice a log update when I checked), and there were no dialog options available to me upon entering the temple.

As you had already decided to slay Hagathrun, that is the end of the main storyline.

You do have the opportunity to tell Baron Tazzer that his son died bravely in the City of the Dead, which is probably where the clicking sound comes in.

These bugs are all related, but we have never been able to find the root cause.

Any chance you are playing on desktop and could send me your saved game?

[Nathan]

So it looks like the I was not able to tell Baron Tazzer that his son died bravely in the City of the Dead... (the clicking) unless that is something that occurs later in the story.

I will try to pay more attention on my next play-through and see if I can provide anything else. The erroneous log might be triggered at the same time as (immediately after) the "We fought the three Seer Lords..." entry.

Unfortunately, no... I am only playing on my phone.
If there is a way to get the file off of an unrooted phone, I'll gladly send it to you.

[matrim]

I get the same bug on all my games regardless of whether I choose to kill him or not. Also I don't believe Nikolai dies in CoD as we never see it. My theory: when you kill Hagathrun, his remaining power is invested in Nikolai which gives him the edge to escape the encounter alive! I can have hope, rebellions are built on hope.

[fallen]

matrim - indeed they are

This bug report was insightful I believe because it pinned the moment where something goes wrong with the quest state to the final battle with the 3 Seer Lords. I have never been able to find the moment where things go off the rails and never been able to get a saved game sent to me where it was broken.

[phaze]

I think it is some combination of when you talk to hagathrun and when you talk to Nikolai.

I have been able to get the quest successful if you save Gholla but avoid the temple of law entirely until after CoD. You still get to choose on hagathrun but Nikolai's fate is sealed according to the quest log as you share the news of Nikolai's death.

Every time I do the temple of law before CoD, the quest fails to resolve. A shame because the Edict armor is pretty sweet. I would like to test matrims theory and still get the armor 😉

[Nathan]

Feb 9, 2017 17:53:18 GMT -5 matrim said:

I get the same bug on all my games regardless of whether I choose to kill him or not. Also I don't believe Nikolai dies in CoD as we never see it. My theory: when you kill Hagathrun, his remaining power is invested in Nikolai which gives him the edge to escape the encounter alive! I can have hope, rebellions are built on hope.

I also don't believe Nikolai dies, for the same reason and from what I remember of the dialog following, it sounded like he was retreating rather than sacrificing himself... but I guess we really don't know.

[fallen]

This might be confused a bit because there are two variations of what can happen at the end of the fight. One of the states that you saw him escape in the last second, the other says you saw him fall before the Seer Lords.

Your heroes fled during the moment he bought you with his risk, so the final result is unknown either way.

[fallen]

Does anyone have a saved game on a desktop that they could send me exhibiting this error? I've asked a few times before, but this bug seems locked on Android.