Cool Ideas for Trait Mutation

[Cory Trese]

Playing a mix and match game to build up part of the Motivation Engine.

I know you all will have some cool ideas.

Here is what we need -- take any one trait from this list:

startraders.gamepedia.com/Traits

and match it up to another. You can pick up to three result traits for each trait.

For Example:

Hyperwarp Sickness
Hyperwarp Sickness -> Flashbacks
Hyperwarp Sickness -> Malcontent
Hyperwarp Sickness -> Earthbound Friends

These will be used to build mutation arrays -- so if you have a Crew with Hyperwarp Sickness, they are more likely to develop Flashbacks / Malconent when getting shot up in battle or Earthbound Friends when getting paid or hitting the spice plate a bit too hard with the locals after being ill in hyperwarp for weeks.

[resistor]

Acid Burnt
Acid Burnt -> Crippled
Acid Burnt -> Rugged
Acid Burnt -> Enduring

Adventurous
Adventurous -> Headstrong
Adventurous -> Intrepid
Adventurous -> Rash

Bandit
Bandit -> Greedy
Bandit -> Brute
Bandit -> Menacing

Greedy
Greedy -> Malcontent
Greedy -> Risky
Greedy -> Assertive

Wanderlust
Wanderlust -> Adventurous
Wanderlust -> Gossip
Wanderlust -> Addictive Tick

[contributor]

I'll give this some thought today.

[John Robinson]

Brilliant is dedicated to Cory Trese and fallen

Brilliant

Brilliant =>	Brilliant	Expansive and lightning fast mind leaps to conclusions and solutions, +50% chance of gaining double XP
Brilliant =>	Device Freak	Special obsession with tech and devices allows equip of 2nd Gear slot, only if Officer or Captain
Brilliant =>	Peacemaker	Gain Morale whenever ending ship combat in Draw or Ransom, lose Morale when destroying enemy ship

Tank

Tank =>	Tank	-2 Quickness, +4 Fortitude
Tank =>	Rugged	+10 Fire Resist, +10 Plasma Shielding, +10 Bio-Poison Resist
Tank =>	Tough	+3 Fortitude, +10% Armor

Berserk

Berserk =>	Berserk	+15% Dmg, +15% Critical
Berserk =>	Death Wish	+30% All Accuracy, +30% Critical, -30% Parry, -30% Dodge
Berserk =>	Survivor	50% Chance to Survive death in crew combat (still removed from battle)

Valiant

Valiant =>	Valiant	+10% Parry, +10% Dodge
Valiant =>	Fleet footed	+5 Initiative, +10% Dodge
Valiant =>	Driven	Unshakable in resolve, Morale will never drop below 50, +2 Resilience

Drunk

Drunk =>	Drunk	Only gains 50% Morale while at the Spice Hall
Drunk =>	Seedy	At home in the Spice Hall, gain +20% Morale bonus when Spicing
Drunk =>	Storyteller	Known for spinning engaging tales and cracking hilarious jokes, this storyteller increases Morale gains in Spice Hall by +2

Traveler

Traveler =>	Traveler	Excited by far-flung travel, gains 3-6 Morale when making a Hyperwarp jump
Traveler =>	Wanderlust	Insatiable drive to travel can only be sated by new experiences, gain 5 to 10 Morale when orbiting a new world
Traveler =>	Earthbound Friends	Charisma % chance to learn about a new Contact when Spicing in the Hall

Twitchy

Twitchy =>	Twitchy	+5 Initiative, -5% Armor
Twitchy =>	Tense	+5 Initiative
Twitchy =>	Fleet Footed	+5 Initiative, +10% Dodge

Fearless

Fearless =>	Fearless	NOT IMPLEMENTED; 50% chance to return to 60 Morale on Morale defeat in combat
Fearless =>	Other Fascination	NOT IMPLEMENTED; gain +Morale bonus on Xeno encounter
Fearless =>	Skeptic	+2 Resilience, +50% To Resist Debuffs

Steady

Steady =>	Steady	Dependable and enduring, all Morale loss is reduced by 50%, +2 Fortitude, +5% Armor
Steady =>	Calm	+10% Dmg, +10% Critical, +25% To Resist Debuffs
Steady =>	Magnetic	10% + Charisma chance that crew will not abandon when at critically low Morale, only if Officer or Captain

[fallen]

P.s. I'd fix the WIKI so that there would be no more NOT IMPLEMENTED traits, but its all locked in read-only mode.

[resistor]

I have a couple questions about trait mutations so I can make better suggestions

1) Are some traits only found on new crew/officers, and can't be mutated to?

2) fallen, you have mentioned before that only Alta Mesa crew can have the spatial trait. Will faction-specific traits like Spatial be acquirable by anyone through mutation? Or will only Alta Mesa crew members be able to mutate into it?

[Cory Trese]

1) yes
2) yes`

[slayernz]

Hmm ... looking at the list, it's easy to see how some traits will invariably lead to others ... but I was thinking you'd also want to consider encounters/events that would cause traits to appear or disappear ...


Wounded in combat --> Positive
Survivor
Rugged

Wounded in combat --> Negative
Spice Addict
Battle Scarred
Combat Nerves
Crippled

Mutiny event --> Positive
Loyal
Reveres Authority
Brave

OR Mutiny event --> Negative
Ill-Tempered
Malcontent
Skeptic




But in the vein of the original topic
Crippled --> Flashbacks
Crippled --> Worldsick
Crippled --> Frail

Ex Military --> Flashbacks
Ex Military --> Battle Scarred
Ex Military --> Hates [faction] (where faction could be random including home faction)

Vulture --> Klepto
Vulture --> Observant
Vulture --> Scavenger


Finally, what about if you gain traits, they naturally deprecate other traits.
For example - if you gain the trait "Brave", you naturally deprecate "Combat Nerves"

[slayernz]

Device Freak --> Klepto
Device Freak --> Scavenger
Device Freak --> Obsessive


Problem Solver --> Calculating
Problem Solver --> Spatial
Problem Solver --> Concentration

Cat --> Hates Steel Song
Cat --> Merciless
Cat --> Obsessive

[contributor]

I was also wondering if there is some deeper logic to trait mutation. Is there a sense that trait mutation tends to push from a lower to a higher meta-score? Or is it possible that traits will sort of recycle around, such as Greedy > Klepto > Sly > Greedy. Also what kind of events will cause mutations outside of combat. Having some idea about those might help give better suggestions.

Also it seems like some traits have to be generated independently of prior traits. Especially those that relate to combat and death. Some one could go from acrobatic to crippled, or greedy to acid burnt. The latter aren't necessarily related to the former, but come rather from overwhelming exterior experiences.

[fallen]

contributor - all sorts of activities (Spying, Spicing, Exploring, Sailing, Fighting, Missions) have low % chances to cause trait mutations. If you Explorer 1,000 times, you'll have a crew who have been shaped by your actions.

[contributor]

So the engine will be tuned to know that Trait1 A + Activity X may yield Trait2 AX. Whereas Trait1 A + Activity Y may yield Trait2 AY?

[fallen]

contributor - more that, each of these factors will add to the table of possibilities for a trait mutation. Activity X will bring some of its own possibilities, crossed with Trait A and Trait B. Perhaps, because you have Trait B, some of the possibilities offered by Activity X will be removed and because you're Faction C, these two other possibilities will be added.

While the prompt Cory Trese posted may make it feel like we're building a flow from Trait X > Trait Y, we're looking for well-matched possibilities, not guaranteed flow of trait to trait. "If you are a Snob, you are likely to become greedy" or "If you survive a lethal blow, you are likely to become rugged or scarred". These possibilities will be crossed with other factors to determine a final mutation.

[contributor]

Sounds really cool and really deep. Awesome!

[fallen]

Oct 20, 2017 9:38:00 GMT -5 contributor said:

Sounds really cool and really deep. Awesome!

My favorite party is the "Activity X" thing. Coming back to that KickStarter promise of building a realistic cast of characters around you. If you blockade enough, loot and destroy enough enemy ships, you're boat is going to be full of merciless cutthroats