Heroes Head to Head

[Zhivago]

Hahaha, got it! Merry Christmas everyone.

[slayernz]

Coming very late to the party on this, but couldn't resist voting.

Head to head, Vraes would crush Kincaid because Vraes is designed to tank and deal out significant damage to single adversaries. Kincaid may get some cuts here and there (or even everywhere), but Vraes would just keep smiling as he crushes Kincaid. Heavy armour, and strength-based weapons + good offensive buffs mean Vraes does what he was designed to do. (If it were Vraes vs the party or Kincaid vs the party, it'd be a different story).

If Selen is able to win initiative on the first combat round, she'd spend most of her AP moving up to melee range with Tami. That means that her melee prowess will only result in a couple of blows. Damaging blows, but not life-ending blows. Tami will then slaughter Selen in one round when she starts her attack. One AP to step backwards, then DI + Aimed Shot means that Selen becomes a kebab (or kebob in certain countries).

Tough for me would be Vincent vs Kjartan, but they are both high damage-causing characters, but Vincent is able to absorb a little more pain than ole Shifty Eyes. The end result would be that Vincent would be badly hurt, but would mostly be alive at the end of the contest. Mostly.

Kyera vs Fyona - as much as I love Kyera, she's more of a lover healer than a fighter. Yes, she has some pretty decent curses up her sleeve (you kiss your mother with that mouth?!?), but in a battle between talk and a heavy mace, the heavy mace generally wins.

[crimsonking]

Vraes would basically waste his APs on Kincaid's Sure Parry and generally high defenses, and that's all he does while slowly getting sliced.

[anrdaemon]

Jan 6, 2015 17:34:41 GMT -5 slayernz said:

kebab (or kebob in certain countries).

Kabob

[contributor]

In Lower Kallasian it's pronounced "Vermin à la Runkah."

[mataeus]

Jan 7, 2015 8:23:28 GMT -5 contributor said:

In Lower Kallasian it's pronounced "Vermin à la Runkah."

We pronounce the above as Kâhdïäk Áræst.

I went for Tam. Purely for her ability to let loose an aimed shot backed up with buffed Deadly Intuition, then back out of range. Also, she'd get first hit with stealth

[slayernz]

Sure Parry will stop one blow, but Vraes tends to do pretty hefty damage with the remaining two strikes he does get in. Strength based characters don't get a bonus to damage, but strength based weapons cause a hell of a lot more damage than dex based weapons. Vraes (at least my one) is doing between 50 and 200 points of damage per attack with very high accuracy. Yes, Kincaid can soak some of that with Dex, but not all. Also, with heavy armor + high Stone Skin, most of Kincaid's feeble dex-based weapons just slide off with minimal impact.

"Vermin à la Runkah." .... Steel Song ancestors who lived with Ratkin would probably say "Roastin' mah Uncle onna Stick"

[En1gma]

It would stop all three...

The battle would drag on, and the Underdeep would shake to witness the fight. Ultimately, it is a death of several smaller, yet significant blows dealt by Kincaid. Vraes would roar and scream, smashing away at thin air. Kincaid would taunt him, further aggravating the enraged Outlander. Vraes makes one mistake and gets run through, bellowing until breath leaves his body.

[slayernz]

Question - does Kincaid get hit during general combat? Answer Yes. Even if Kincaid is level 30, does he get hit? Answer - yes. Is Vraes stronger and tougher than any individual opponent? Probably - especially with the health/spirit potions.

I'd SOO love to see the fight ... maybe in Ep 4, there will be a side quest where you can choose to battle an avatar of your opposite. The outcome wouldn't affect your story arc, and the death wouldn't count against your death counter. The Dryad just gives you a potion that takes your spirit into this alternate reality.

[En1gma]

Jan 6, 2015 17:34:41 GMT -5 slayernz said:

If it were Vraes vs the party or Kincaid vs the party, it'd be a different story.

This sounds like another great thread discussion- is there any character that could stand a chance against the rest of the party? What would happen if Kyera/Fyona couldn't break the possession spell cast by a certain god and Ryethin didn't come to the rescue? Could either Vraes or Kincaid stand a chance? Any other party member for that matter?

[contributor]

Jan 7, 2015 16:51:25 GMT -5 slayernz said:

Sure Parry will stop one blow, but Vraes tends to do pretty hefty damage with the remaining two strikes he does get in. Strength based characters don't get a bonus to damage, but strength based weapons cause a hell of a lot more damage than dex based weapons. Vraes (at least my one) is doing between 50 and 200 points of damage per attack with very high accuracy. Yes, Kincaid can soak some of that with Dex, but not all. Also, with heavy armor + high Stone Skin, most of Kincaid's feeble dex-based weapons just slide off with minimal impact.

"Vermin à la Runkah." .... Steel Song ancestors who lived with Ratkin would probably say "Roastin' mah Uncle onna Stick"

Sigh,

You still have so much to learn young padawan. Back to the sandbox ye feline. Then come see me once you've found a Slayernz Cruiser.

[crimsonking]

Jan 7, 2015 18:56:56 GMT -5 slayernz said:

Question - does Kincaid get hit during general combat? Answer Yes. Even if Kincaid is level 30, does he get hit? Answer - 

- very rarely if it's not ranged and magic attacks, on nightmare. Kincaid has several defensive self buffs. One of them also adds accuracy and crit chance. Or he can keep distance and throw knives.

Between Tam and Selen the stealth roll and distance decides. Both got incredible crit potential from stealth, so first strike wins.
Same for Vince and Kjartan. Damage potential is just too high for the one that loses initiative to survive round one.
Surprisingly, Kyera will win over Fyona with the combined use of EA, retribution and keeping distance. Fyona won't ever get the chance to attack.

[bobc]

Working on the assumption that the protagonists will be able to re-buff as needed during combat then Vraes will get truly whipped by Kincaid.  At the best Vraes gets 3 attacks before he stops for a breather, all of which are deflected by sure parry.  Kincaid then re-buffs and drops some hurtin' on Vraes.  Simples

[crimsonking]

You can use a single 1AP dagger for Vraes. Still, he would have a hard time hitting.

[bobc]

True, but does Vraes really have the finesse to use a 1AP blade?  He's more likely to get distracted and use it as a tooth pick or to clean his nails!