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Post by Cory Trese on Apr 10, 2015 11:37:16 GMT -5
I think she means people who want to play with a single character in the party. |
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Post by grävling on Apr 10, 2015 13:15:45 GMT -5
No. multiplayer is something else. When it comes to games which you do with a party, I strongly prefer small teams. Which is why HoS is never going to get as much attention out of me as other TB games. I think the new skill set, and the curses and how one character's skills can support anothers -- and indeed has to if you play the harder difficulties -- is done really, really, really well. Which makes HoS, at least for me, all about how to build a viable party. And I have lots of characters to choose from, so there is lots of thinking to be done there. Great stuff.  It is just, speaking personally, I only have a limited amount of that particular itch. I greatly prefer fighting battles where the team is small. So my preference is that CK2 or LoS, when you make them, are designed so that small teams and soloists can play, not just large teams. |
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Post by rabidbite on Apr 10, 2015 14:00:53 GMT -5
No. multiplayer is something else. When it comes to games which you do with a party, I strongly prefer small teams. Which is why HoS is never going to get as much attention out of me as other TB games. I think the new skill set, and the curses and how one character's skills can support anothers -- and indeed has to if you play the harder difficulties -- is done really, really, really well. Which makes HoS, at least for me, all about how to build a viable party. And I have lots of characters to choose from, so there is lots of thinking to be done there. Great stuff. It is just, speaking personally, I only have a limited amount of that particular itch. I greatly prefer fighting battles where the team is small. So my preference is that CK2 or LoS, when you make them, are designed so that small teams and soloists can play, not just large teams. Hmm. Interesting variance. Perhaps CK2 could have 2 modes.One for smaller teams and one for larger ones. Though not sure what 'smaller team' means versus 'larger team'. rabid |
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Post by Cory Trese on Apr 10, 2015 14:12:22 GMT -5
Well I would say that TA2 will be decidedly a "large team" where you may recruit as many as 20 different squad members throughout the game.
However, TA2 will have many levels where you are fighting with your Captain and a single Scout, or the Captain and two Soldiers.
The way I imagine CK 2, the choice to build a very small, highly focused team will be there for sure -- in the same way it is in CK. Not a game mode, instead a strategy and style. It depends on how you spend your resources and how often you decide to recruit new operatives.
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Post by grävling on Apr 10, 2015 14:26:24 GMT -5
Well, right now it is perfectly possible to play CK as a soloist. Things take longer, and you don't use a lot of cyberware, as you want to maximise the XP that you get. Or you can play, for instance, a hunder with nothing but dogs on your team. That is a different experience, and you can keep working on those 'needs perception' and 'needs intimidation' missions -- but you, and not your dogs have to train negotiate, and hacking, and electronics and firearms. Or I most usually play a duet -- one shooter with a rifle and one cybersword with taser gloves.
Right now there is no real 'for a limited amount of time you know you are going to need skill X' choices -- you mostly need skills in encounters, and encounters happen randomly, all over. But if you did you could develop a hacker that you only take out when you need high level hacking skills, and a sniper that you really only used for the odd 'kill them at a distance' mission and so on.
And, of course, many people like to play CK with a full team with different members specialised in different skills, so that whatever the encounter, they will have a better chance of succeeding. The disadvantage in this is that CK then sends you very large teams to fight, and that you cannot take a large number of escort missions simultaneously. Which is fine for the 'me and my army are marching all over Ganger territory in the NBZ' but I like to see myself as sneaking my way all over the NBZ, trying not to draw attention to myself.
And CK is neat, because all of this works. So if CK2 is in the pre-planning stage, I thought it would be worthwhile to mention that this is one aspect of CK I would like to keep in CK2. And in LoS, of course, when that gets made ... just because it is something I really like.
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Post by Cg on Apr 13, 2015 17:10:15 GMT -5
Obviously STILL a massive interest and anticipation for a new revised version of Cyber Knights. Noticeably so. Hint hint. Come on Cory. Pull rank on your younger sibling. Get Martin to help you, gang up on him if needs be. Or send a team over to the NBZ where he's living at the moment, and persuade him that CK 2 is the way to go.  |
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Apr 13, 2015 17:13:49 GMT -5
The noogie is probably his best bet, unless Andrew calls upon the ultimate defense: Tattling to Mom and Dad.
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Post by Cg on Apr 13, 2015 17:15:31 GMT -5
Could try a Chinese Burn. That might work.
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Post by ntsheep on Apr 13, 2015 17:16:26 GMT -5
Oh great, the "Mom and Dad" card. Let's hope he has a trap card ready.
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Post by Cg on Apr 13, 2015 17:19:01 GMT -5
There again. Holding his head under a blanket and making unmentionable gassy effects, may also work, but chem warfare may be a bit Over The Top.  Oh Oh! I feel a full derail coming on. |
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Post by Cg on Apr 13, 2015 17:20:58 GMT -5
So. You're still around and awake Sheep Buddy. Just got back from work huh?
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Post by ntsheep on Apr 13, 2015 17:23:36 GMT -5
Work was yesterday. A motorcycle swap meet. Needless to say, I had fun.
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Post by Cg on Apr 13, 2015 17:26:28 GMT -5
Work was yesterday. A motorcycle swap meet. Needless to say, I had fun. You didn't swap your bike, did you???  |
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Post by slayernz on Apr 13, 2015 17:27:38 GMT -5
Work ... WORK ... Work is for those poor deluded people who think that the Man needs things done that the Man clearly should do for himself. Stupid man. Everyone knows you should work for ... The Cat!  |
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Post by slayernz on Apr 13, 2015 17:28:28 GMT -5
I could never understand this fascination with bikes  |
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