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Post by jknut on Jun 13, 2015 20:16:10 GMT -5
I think Xenos should favor attacking Templars over TP when Templar is within a 5 tiles of TP. Xeno in this screenshot attacked TP 2 tiles away instead of Templar right next to him.  |
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Post by slayernz on Jun 14, 2015 4:23:04 GMT -5
SOMETIMES ... they do two attacks in their round - one hit on the TP, AND one hit against the knight. Man it sucks when they do that sometimes  |
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Post by Kanly on Jun 14, 2015 7:39:41 GMT -5
I agree about templar vs tp aggro. It would make defensively built teams (paladin and berserk) much more effective. Right now they are strongest when blocking passages that are 1 tile wide, but otherwise the xenos just bypass them and make a beeline for the tp. I'm not sure if xenos should automatically attack templars over tp, but I think they should be somewhat more balanced in their tagetting.
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Post by jknut on Jun 15, 2015 10:19:18 GMT -5
Here's a screenshot of a Xeno cruising past 3 Templars straight into a TP attack. I drew in a red line of the Xeno path for the turn. Can this be reworked so the Xenos prefer to attack the closes Templar?  |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 15, 2015 12:54:39 GMT -5
The AI is making balanced strategic choices to attempt to eliminate your team in the fewest turns possible.
I'm afraid this thread risks oversimplifying a complex issue, but I hear the feedback, in general as: "The AI is a bit too effective on my difficulty level and keeps taking out my TP."
As we work through the final phases of the Alpha, we'll absolutely being doing work to allocate the AI's intelligence routines across the difficulty levels.
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Post by ntsheep on Jun 15, 2015 13:44:21 GMT -5
The AI is making balanced strategic choices to attempt to eliminate your team in the fewest turns possible.I'm afraid this thread risks oversimplifying a complex issue, but I hear the feedback, in general as: "The AI is a bit too effective on my difficulty level and keeps taking out my TP." As we work through the final phases of the Alpha, we'll absolutely being doing work to allocate the AI's intelligence routines across the difficulty levels. So what your saying is, that the Xenos have a turn count goal they're trying to beat?  |
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Post by fallen on Jun 15, 2015 15:25:20 GMT -5
What we're saying is we tried to make them smart |
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Post by Kanly on Jun 16, 2015 9:02:28 GMT -5
I actually like that the xenos like to target TPs, but I think we just need another tool to help prevent that from happening. The most important tool we have for this at the moment is overwatch, because it attacks the xenos as they try to sneak past.
I think one of the melee classes, preferably the berserker, should have a melee version of overwatch that is only cast-able on the tiles immediately surrounding them. This would make melee much more effective at TP defense. Although they would probably have to be nerfed elsewhere to compensate.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 16, 2015 9:05:06 GMT -5
I actually like that the xenos like to target TPs, but I think we just need another tool to help prevent that from happening. The most important tool we have for this at the moment is overwatch, because it attacks the xenos as they try to sneak past. I think one of the melee classes, preferably the berserker, should have a melee version of overwatch that is only cast-able on the tiles immediately surrounding them. This would make melee much more effective at TP defense. Although they would probably have to be nerfed elsewhere to compensate. Haha! They already do, it is a buff with Auto-Counter bonuses! And it auto-targets! Even easier to use than OW. And it lasts multiple turns! |
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Post by Kanly on Jun 16, 2015 9:15:31 GMT -5
The difference between an overwatch style talent and countering is huge. Countering only works if the xeno attacks the Templar. Most of the time, I find they attack the TP first.
I guess I'm asking for something preventative instead of reactive.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 16, 2015 9:21:07 GMT -5
The difference between an overwatch style talent and countering is huge. Countering only works if the xeno attacks the Templar. Most of the time, I find they attack the TP first. I guess I'm asking for something preventative instead of reactive. What level is the buff you're testing with? |
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Post by ntsheep on Jun 16, 2015 9:23:25 GMT -5
I think once the TP defense upgrades are working right, we'll see a lot better options for us. Sentry Guns are great right now for that, but you only get 2 per Engineer. A two Engineer squad, depending on the levels layout, can drop a Sentry in every corner of a TP and make it almost untouchable by the Xeno.
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Post by Kanly on Jun 16, 2015 9:24:20 GMT -5
If you are talking about indomitable defense, I have tested it up to level 3 and haven't had it do anything preventative yet. Maybe it's just bad rolls on my part though. Maybe my device hates berserkers, because I updated to stock 5.1.1 and their slash talent still freezes my game.  |
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Post by Kanly on Jun 16, 2015 9:25:23 GMT -5
That's true ntsheep. The defenses should help considerably. |
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