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Post by En1gma on Sept 3, 2015 12:22:20 GMT -5
100% in agreement with you, krakun. Saytek and Riverton are optimal systems for our needs, and will allow our presence to be felt on all fronts. Javat and Mokklumune may have whatever systems they feel are best for their interests. Faction Politics 3 is the ideal candidate for our next research project, as the Credits gained by both a second level Exchange AND a Trade Alliance will finally end their incessant prattle about budgets. Thulun will not bow to pressure when it comes to the safety of the Alliance- should we decide to build a ship, it will be built- the paltry cost of the single fighter will exponentially pay for itself when the time comes. |
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Post by hissrad on Sept 3, 2015 12:55:20 GMT -5
I figured since we were already close to Manufacturing 1 and Mining 1 we'd go for those first, but I'm fine either way.
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Post by En1gma on Sept 3, 2015 14:49:42 GMT -5
We're looking for fast returns here.
What will give the Alliance the most money the fastest? Trade Alliance + Exchange 2 will drastically increase our income, neutering Mokklumune's inane 'budget, waaaa, waaaa...' arguments.
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Post by hissrad on Sept 3, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
I hadn't thought of Faction politics. It's a better idea I think, Exchanges are always useful on top of the trade benefits.
I'd recommend looking at the Fighter branch of the tech tree soon, we should be able to get through it relatively fast.
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Post by contributor on Sept 3, 2015 15:36:20 GMT -5
Counsilor Lurker of the Exalted Clan Moklumnue peeks his head in the door and was going to say something...
...but decided that maybe now wasn't the time to intrude on House En1gma.
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Post by En1gma on Sept 3, 2015 20:13:46 GMT -5
The honorable delegates from Mokklumune and Javat are always welcome in our chambers, contributor. We have nothing to hide, and have always prided ourselves on our blunt level of honesty. My remarks earlier may have been in bad taste, and for that, you have my heartfelt apology. This being said, it is difficult to speak of your clan with much but disdain as of late, and this pains me. We have only the safety of the Alliance in the forefront of our minds, and every suggestion and proposition we have made has reflected this. Yet in spite of this, our covert eyes and ears in your own faction chambers have been constantly informing us of your underhanded and unnecessary attempts at swaying the Javat council against us, with few attempts to actually negotiate a joint resolution we can all agree upon. We have yet to reach out to the Javat council to push our agenda, instead relying on direct action in the main chambers of the Alliance. Should the delegates from Mokklumune wish to improve relations betwixt our noble chambers, an honest attempt at negotiations must be made. Our doors are open, our floor is yours, and we eagerly await your return. Rest assured the finest Spice and Hexa-Distilled Vudka will be abundant, let us usher in a breath of fresh air to these stuffy halls. |
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Post by johndramey on Sept 3, 2015 22:35:06 GMT -5
Honorable House Thulun, I invite you to the main chambers. The Exalted Clan Moklumnue has officially made its proposal for the second cycle.
I assure you that honest negotiation has always been in the heart of this humble delegate of the Exalted Clan Moklumnue! I simply am speaking the honest truth of what myself and the rest of the Exalted Clan Moklumnue feels is appropriate. If you would be so kind as to review our proposal you will realize that we are rational. We welcome any criticism, counter-proposal, or opinion you may have to offer.
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Post by En1gma on Sept 4, 2015 12:38:14 GMT -5
hissrad, krakunMokklumnue has completed their proposal, so we need to discuss any rebuttals. They have proposed going down the Space Colonization branch up to SC 2, then Faction Politics 3. After this comes Starship Construction 2, and Fighters 1. Personally I would like to see FP 3 before anything else, but I'm generally indifferent to this path otherwise. -Our systems will be finished with their projects long before the others, so I'm fine with allowing our colonies to idle in order to boost our RP production. Thoughts? Ogglavan Hold and Leiwen have been requested, and I have no objections so long as none are made concerning Thulun's colony locations. They are still pushing for us to hold off on our Fighter, despite our wishes. If we are united in our decision to construct our Fighter, please say so, that we may present a unified voice of consensus. My vote is still an emphatic YES on this matter. Mokklumnue remains firm in their wishes to continue scouting, and though I am set against this, it appears we will face being out-voted should we refuse. Should we refuse, they will likely push for majority vote like we predicted would happen. Upon refusal, Mokklumnue will likely attempt to veto our Fighter construction, but we may hold out in case Javat sides with us, or the venerable CdrPlatypus decides to take matters into his own hands and direct our starport to begin construction in lieu of the Council. We will need to discuss this matter further. Council, we may wish to counter-propose a research path. Space Colonization 2 is a long road, and one that will likely result in a significant loss of tempo. Our research facilities would be far better spent on Fighter research and Politics. Perhaps this will be our bargaining chip-- What if we cede our wish to construct a Fighter until Starship 2 and Fighters 1 have been prioritized and completed. Follow this with Faction Politics 3 and then they may move onto Space Colonization. I summon johndramey and contributor to the Thulun Council. Welcome gentlemen. I have proposed this above measure to my council, and I wanted your input on whether this purely hypothetical Research Path would be agreeable. This proposal has no weight whatsoever until the entirety of the Council has convened, so please feel free to weigh in. Thulun, let our voices be heard, and let us quickly present our proposal to the Alliance, once we are all in agreement.
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Post by hissrad on Sept 4, 2015 13:29:35 GMT -5
As we have yet to encounter a Xenos ship perhaps it'd be wise to hold on the Fighter until Starship Construction 2 Fighters 1 has been completed. With our construction expertise we'll be able to produce a second generation fighter relatively fast. After those
As for Leiwin and Oglavan Hold,I don't have any objections to their claims.
Scouting....I still would prefer waiting til we can start fielding ships but they seem adamant on it. Perhaps they'll agree to hold off til we have our fighter finished and have S.C. 2 and Fighters 1 researched. It'd at least let us have a chance when the Drekk hits the Vent.
Research? I'd say Fighters 1 and Starship Construction 2 first, then Faction Politics followed by Space Colonization 1. After that I think it'd be smart to to go at least to Space Colonization 2, it'd help the others get their colonies off the ground.
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Post by hissrad on Sept 4, 2015 17:25:07 GMT -5
Don't every one respond at once....  |
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Post by En1gma on Sept 4, 2015 20:00:24 GMT -5
I'm in agreement with you, my dear associate. If we don't hear from krakun shortly, one of us should present our counter(proposal) to the Alliance. |
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Post by johndramey on Sept 5, 2015 4:09:53 GMT -5
Honorable hissrad & En1gma, I do apologize for my tardiness. It is Saturday here in my estate on Moklumnue Prime, and I tend to spend my weekends with my wife walking along the sea cliffs. Anyway, down to the point. I could potentially see moving Starship Construction 2 and Fighters 1 to the top of our proposed research plan provided House Thulun is willing to agree to two conditions. 1) Scouting would continue. 2) House Thulun supports our claims on Olggavan Hold and Leiwin. Further, I could even add to our proposal and allow the construction of a fighter after researching Fighters 1, if House Thulun agrees to place Space Colonization 1 and 2 before Faction Politics 3. That is, our research proposal would read as such, Starship construction 2 Fighters 1 Space Colonization 1&2 Faction Politics 3 How does this compromise sound to your honorable house? |
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Post by krakun on Sept 5, 2015 5:04:17 GMT -5
Apologies for the tardiness Councilors En1gma and hissrad. I have to take care of TWO Krakun spawns, one of which you've seen in a flask and has wandered off into the air ducts, I just hope it hasn't left off with one of the visiting ships, and my feminine lab assistant has also wandered off to Shalun knows where. So I'm busier than the proverbial one legged man at an arse kicking contest. [OOC I have two small kids 3 years, the other 7 weeks] Having posterity assured and a planet named after oneself sure does change perspective, I don't really care if most of us finish our lives at an all you can eat oyster bar. This being said, all these fumes gave me an out of the cryochamber idea. A first generation fighter isn't going to cut the mustard against the Xeno, and I'm not convinced it's going to be enough if an attack occurs. Only the Templar Defenders or advanced fighters will do. so why not agree to give these armchair strategists all the time they want to build an army, as long as the two venerable Templar Defenders remain near our colonies? That will challenge our fiends erm friends to assume the risk consequences of the choices they are ramming down out throats. That's all from my sleep deprived brain, again thank you for your understanding and patience. |
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Post by En1gma on Sept 5, 2015 7:45:41 GMT -5
Agreed, krakun. If I get the opportunity later today, I will attempt to summarize this and present our proposal to the Alliance. Should either of you find the time veggie them and feel like making the proposal, feel free to do so. Thank you johndramey. At least we will have an appropriate level of ship tech once we meet the Xeno from your scouting efforts. I wanted a basic fighter so we wouldn't be completely outmatched when the time came. Let us pray we discover our techs before we discover the Xeno. |
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Post by En1gma on Sept 5, 2015 17:47:24 GMT -5
hissrad, krakun... Not sure what else to do here, in terms of these so called negotiations. If anyone has any idea on what we can do next, I'm welcome to any suggestions...
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