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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 17:32:31 GMT -5
It would benefit one of my parties if there were at least one location to pick up cheap and low HP potions in Ep3/4. I appreciate that potions scale throughout the game, but my avoidance parties only need 100-200 HP when they hit up potions not the 500-650 that I find in chests.
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 25, 2016 17:35:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestion!
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Post by fallen on Feb 25, 2016 18:59:43 GMT -5
Hmm, will consider adding a shop where you can buy these. It's part of the game's pricing balance to stop offering them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 19:03:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the consideration. Not a high priority for me as I try to live off the land as it were, but I always feel like I'm wasting utility and would definitely spend my gold on lower level potions in the late game.
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Feb 25, 2016 20:12:28 GMT -5
I hope you can find a reasonable trade off for it too, cause I could use such as well for some builds, you know, those staying off vampiric drugs... er... sp drains.
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Post by xdesperado on Feb 25, 2016 21:09:09 GMT -5
Ok, just curious but why buy heal potions? Use your healers talents out of combat, only use looted heal pots in combat when absolutely necessary otherwise relie on the heal talents.
SP pots then are useful either in or out of combat so you'll still want to buy them but need for heal pots should be minimal and looted pots able to cover the need.
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Post by fallen on Feb 25, 2016 21:24:36 GMT -5
Ok, just curious but why buy heal potions? My use of them is always because they are so low AP cost. Vraes can still swing his full 2 or 3 attacks and chug a potion down, which might give Kyera the few AP needed to hit the Orcin mob with Ethereal Anguish. If she had to heal him, we'd hit one less clump of Orcin. That said, I find them to "fill the gaps" and I'd much gather have Kyera heal Vraes, but sometimes the AP is very tight in these situations.
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Post by johndramey on Feb 25, 2016 21:57:57 GMT -5
Ok, just curious but why buy heal potions? Use your healers talents out of combat, only use looted heal pots in combat when absolutely necessary otherwise relie on the heal talents. SP pots then are useful either in or out of combat so you'll still want to buy them but need for heal pots should be minimal and looted pots able to cover the need. Well, my current team has no real heal talents that they use, I've basically been subsisting off of heal pots. It's actually worked surprisingly well, and has allowed me to focus all characters on buffing, cursing, or smashing. So, I'll actually second this request. I tend to use the lower level healing pots to top of Vrae's health whenever I cast stone skin, so it'd be nice to be able to say those monster potions for when I need 'em.
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Post by fallen on Feb 25, 2016 22:18:42 GMT -5
Would it help if I added the lower quality potions at the same price?
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Feb 25, 2016 23:02:04 GMT -5
Would it help if I added the lower quality potions at the same price? I was thinking 1/4 powered but 1/2 the price, so they're still 2x as costly per recovery point...
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Post by samopop on Feb 26, 2016 0:02:17 GMT -5
It would benefit one of my parties if there were at least one location to pick up cheap and low HP potions in Ep3/4. In Ep 3, you can always hike back to towns as far back as Riven Field and get cheap, low HP potions. In E4 I think you are out of luck. Ok, just curious but why buy heal potions? Use your healers talents out of combat, only use looted heal pots in combat when absolutely necessary otherwise relie on the heal talents. I basically never level heal talents, so if I want to heal in-combat, I always use heal potions. With dodge/parry focused groups in difficult fights, I like to get everyone to close to max HP before ending my turn, so any time they take some damage I use the appropriately sized heal potion on them for just 1 AP. I would waste a lot of money if I used over-sized heal potions.
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Post by johndramey on Feb 26, 2016 0:44:14 GMT -5
Would it help if I added the lower quality potions at the same price? That would make me a sad panda, but I'd be willing to pay more per hp point, as @wascalywabbit suggested. Of course, if it's a huge pain in the butt, well I can just content myself with thinking how manly Vraes is when he recovers 500 HP to cover his +250 hp buff, haha.
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Post by John Robinson on Feb 26, 2016 6:10:35 GMT -5
I periodically make the long trip back to the Rivenfield trading post to restock lower power, lower cost HP and SP potions. My Vraes and Kincaid builds never really have big SP batteries so a small cheaper potion can fill their SP bar. Often times during battle the character isn't badly wounded but will take too much HP damage during the next round so a smaller HP potion tops off the tank. The bigger higher cost potions are very much needed, but having smaller potions in your inventory protects you from having to use a 350 SP, or 500 HP potion when you only need a 160-220 potion during a battle.
At level 29 Vincent has over 1,000 SP, so there are times during a battle where a 350 SP potion is needed asap, but he is highly mobile and 160-220 HP potions are enough to cure battle damage received during a combat round.
Traveling back to Rivenfield is only tiresome when you are working in the Braey's lands, or other far away locations where you cannot travel by boat, but keeping a larger inventory of smaller sized potions, when you have the money, helps protect your inventory of big potions from being wasted.
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Post by En1gma on Feb 26, 2016 7:00:27 GMT -5
Just make the Vial of Spirit Restoration available at all shops... It doesn't need to be a different potion, or a different equation for it, just the one smaller potion able to be bought anywhere
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Post by fallen on Feb 26, 2016 12:15:44 GMT -5
I will look at the curves again, but from my look at the math, this is an important part of the gold ratio established within the game.
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