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Post by mlw on Dec 29, 2016 22:03:42 GMT -5
Started a VKFT group and planning on maxing out Shield, Skin and a few points into NM and Speed.
Compared with other heroes, Vraes' SP usage is quite big now with the cost of Shield and Speed especially.
Fyona will level Fervor and Kjartan will level Pureflame to add even more armor to this build.
No need to worry about Stealth for Tamilin since Vraes is leading, but that means no more Stalker ability for her, which was one of my favourite talent.
On previous plays, I always leveled up Zealous for Fyona, but I think for this playthrough I will be aiming to max level Reckoning for the -2ap to add to Tam's Torrent.
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Post by tran on Dec 29, 2016 22:52:32 GMT -5
I usually put 16 points into Vraes's Lore so that stone skin could last for 2 rounds, plus I don't actually active phalanx shield or burst of speed unless I encounter bosses or tough matches . With enough sp draining gears, Fy could use Fervor and Strickening for quite a while! But you don't actually have to get reckoning up to -2 ap, Tam would do a much better job in that regard, and it is much more efficient.
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Post by mlw on Dec 30, 2016 0:20:40 GMT -5
I usually put 16 points into Vraes's Lore so that stone skin could last for 2 rounds, plus I don't actually active phalanx shield or burst of speed unless I encounter bosses or tough matches . With enough sp draining gears, Fy could use Fervor and Strickening for quite a while! But you don't actually have to get reckoning up to -2 ap, Tam would do a much better job in that regard, and it is much more efficient. I am just planning ahead to the battle with the 2 sear lords in the COD battle where Tamilin is transported away. The -2ap from Reckoning would come in handy. Also, I want to try maxing out Reckoning instead of Zealous and compared the 2 talents. I always find it difficult to decide which way to go with these 2 talents. |
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Post by tran on Dec 30, 2016 0:43:56 GMT -5
for this build, yeah, reckoning first for the ap, then zealous follows. Good luck with the Seers!
...You are gonna need it
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Dec 30, 2016 2:39:49 GMT -5
Offensively zs is generally more sp efficient for Fyona per dmg, if you get reck to cross for area effect.
Party defense, and other party member melee acc, reck is the way to go.
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Post by crimsonking on Dec 30, 2016 4:26:07 GMT -5
Both are close in terms of damage and accuracy, as Reck debuffs Parry. Reck delivers an area effect and lots of defensive debuffs for about twice the SP cost. So Reck is far better on nearly every occasion, as long as you can afford it, which should not be a big issue.
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Post by mlw on Dec 30, 2016 8:10:52 GMT -5
I reckon by the time I get reckoning to 9 or 10, there will be sufficient sp drain items to support this.
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Post by richard on Dec 30, 2016 15:46:55 GMT -5
I would increase ZS first since it gives you additional holy damage for Reckoning on the follow on strikes
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Post by richard on Dec 30, 2016 15:47:49 GMT -5
For Vraes, do you increase Lore before weapon skill?
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Post by crimsonking on Dec 30, 2016 17:29:41 GMT -5
For Vraes, do you increase Lore before weapon skill? Definitely not. |
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Post by crimsonking on Dec 30, 2016 17:32:18 GMT -5
I would increase ZS first since it gives you additional holy damage for Reckoning on the follow on strikes I would increase Reckoning first since it gives you additional holy damage from the first hit instead of only on the follow ups, has an area effect and a heavy off/def debuff. |
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Post by mlw on Dec 31, 2016 3:22:19 GMT -5
I would increase ZS first since it gives you additional holy damage for Reckoning on the follow on strikes I would increase Reckoning first since it gives you additional holy damage from the first hit instead of only on the follow ups, has an area effect and a heavy off/def debuff. It's a difficult choice. But I am tending towards building Reckoning first for all those reasons. At least it gives me an extra chance to hit with Reckoning in some tight battles. Building Reckoning to a high level would make sure every hit counts towards dealing those debuff effects. |
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Post by achilles73 on Dec 31, 2016 10:12:17 GMT -5
I would increase Reckoning first since it gives you additional holy damage from the first hit instead of only on the follow ups, has an area effect and a heavy off/def debuff. It's a difficult choice. But I am tending towards building Reckoning first for all those reasons. At least it gives me an extra chance to hit with Reckoning in some tight battles. Building Reckoning to a high level would make sure every hit counts towards dealing those debuff effects. Isn't Reckoning an AoE as well? |
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Post by jhakir on May 2, 2017 10:32:03 GMT -5
Having just completed all available content with a party very similar to this one, I can safely say this style of play does not get nearly enough attention.
If people are curious, I will happily provide a detailed write up.
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Post by fallen on May 2, 2017 11:06:57 GMT -5
jhakir - I certainly am, but its from a game designer's academic view. I'm always interested in hearing about a new build I haven't tried 
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