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Post by grävling on Jun 27, 2012 2:03:39 GMT -5
Cory, they maybe are supposed to be on sale in those three places, but right now they aren't. I'm not finding the hand blades I on sale anywhere, either. And chipped skills III is only on sale at CA medical in Beacon Hill -- didn't that used to be available more places?
I've visited every store with the cyberware icon, and a few others that I happen to remember sell cyberware such as the Knight Horizon private clinic and Mamma Riki's Massage Parlor, and no blades. Something is well and truly broken.
And what my characters who still have hand blades have, is something called 'Improved Hand Blades'. But I remember there being hand blades I and hand blades III (and looking for and not finding any Hand Blades II in the game). Now there are no blades at all for sale anywhere.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 27, 2012 2:40:22 GMT -5
Hand Blades (Weapon Grade I)
Hand Razors (Weapon Grade II)
Combat Blades (Weapon Grade III)
So the best ones are called Combat Blades.
I will have to investigate the rest of the report, because I didn't know about any issues.
I'll check!
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Post by grävling on Jun 27, 2012 3:38:49 GMT -5
I have
Cybernetics
Improved Hand Blades
Power:5
Penetration:7
Accuracy:5
Ammo:0
Range: 1
AP:2
Speed:2
Y0
Improved Hand Blades are the top of the line personal combat weapon, providing concealability, style,. and deadly cutting and thrusting power.
no mention of weapon grade.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 27, 2012 4:08:55 GMT -5
I have Cybernetics Improved Hand Blades Power:5 Penetration:7 Accuracy:5 Ammo:0 Range: 1 AP:2 Speed:2 Y0 Improved Hand Blades are the top of the line personal combat weapon, providing concealability, style,. and deadly cutting and thrusting power. no mention of weapon grade. Interesting -- I was talking about the Implant, not the Weapon. I will see what is up with that -- might just be that the names are out of sync! Great post, thanks again for explaining  |
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Post by grävling on Jun 27, 2012 5:31:24 GMT -5
Ok, that is how is shows up on my 'equipped' list. When you look at implants you get
Combat Blades
Mars Corp
ImplantDV: 25
Cyberweapon
Rating: 3
Y: 12500
and I know I bought this one at Saytek's, because I always buy my blades there. But it is not
possible today.
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Post by grävling on Jun 27, 2012 10:26:07 GMT -5
Smith Biomedical has Hand Blades - rating 1 for Y900.
(and Chipped Skills III, so that's a second place for that.)
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Post by jeffjway on Jun 27, 2012 23:47:02 GMT -5
Cory,
I do not see the Blades anymore either. I cabbed to all 3 of your listed locations to check, but no Blades. Do we need a certain Rep to see them now?
I can't Find Gun Link ^2 either too
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Post by grävling on Jun 28, 2012 1:09:59 GMT -5
CA Medical has the hand blades I as well. I do not know how I managed to miss it before.
Sorry about that. Both it and Smith Biomedical have a gun link, rating 1. I do not recall ever seeing a gun link with a different rating than 1.
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Post by grävling on Jun 29, 2012 20:23:36 GMT -5
Made a new character.
Cybernetic hand blades 3 are there at Saytek for her. Game is still 7.15.
The still *aren't there* for other saved characters I have.
The char who is able to find them (Claws) is a Female 2 Face Brutal
Body:3
Strength:3
Athletics:3
Brawling 0
Dex:2
Stealth 1
Firearms:2
Mind: 3
Int 2
Elect 0
Hacking 0
Percep 3
Negotiate 4,
Intimidate 1.
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An example of a character who cannot find them at Saytek's (I have many)
Xerxes, male agent X brutal
Body 11 [14]
Strength 11
Athletics 11 [14]
Dexterity 5
Stealth 5[8]
Firearms 5[8]
Mind 6
Intelligence 6
Electronics 6
Hacking 0
Perception 6
Negotiate 6
Intimidate 6
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Post by grävling on Jun 29, 2012 20:31:34 GMT -5
Ok, made a brand new male agent X, brutal.
The first thing I did was take a taxi to Saytek's -- as soon as the sandbox text about how to play the game was finished. No hand blades.
Then I made a brand new female 2 face brutal
The first thing I did was take a taxi to Saytek's -- as soon as the sandbox text about how to play the game was finished. The hand blades were there.
Took out an old character -- Fantomen is a Male Face Brutal 7Xp ready, 397 xp spent.
Went to Saytek's. No blades were there.
Made new male brutal Face
Went to Saytek's. No blades were there.
Took out an old char. Xanthia is a Female 2 Custom (all worst values) Agent X. 23XP ready, 411 XP spent.
Went to Saytek's. No blades were there.
So it does not seem to be class related or character related.
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Post by absimiliard on Jun 30, 2012 7:17:13 GMT -5
Could still be only new female 2 characters.
Let me test.
So my new female 2 does see them, which could be consistent.
I don't have an old one to test with though. So I can't disprove it, which is the important part.
-abs
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Post by grävling on Jun 30, 2012 8:00:29 GMT -5
I have many female 2 new chars which do not see them -- they were the start of all of this. I made a female 2 gunslinger who could not see them, then a face who could, and then a sniper who couldn't. All in under 10 minutes elapsed clock time.
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Post by LordofSyn on Jun 30, 2012 8:33:27 GMT -5
it only happened after the new female.
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Post by grävling on Jun 30, 2012 9:07:03 GMT -5
it only happened after the new female. Yes, and I think not after her first release -- because I was equipping her with blades then, and sending bug reports in that this ought not be possible. I think it was 7.15 that broke it. But I cannot swear to this, because if it is a random thing -- whether the blades show up or not, then it is possible that I got lucky and didn't hit the bug with my first female 2 chars. After that I have been pretty much concentrating on finding answers to the question 'How do I keep cyan-and-.brown dogs from eating me'? so hadn't been paying that much attention to blades. |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 30, 2012 12:13:11 GMT -5
I really doubt it is random, honestly. This part of the code doesn't roll dice, but it does look at your default weapon values. Perhaps in all the fixing of default weapons this has been thrown off somehow.
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