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Post by grävling on May 29, 2012 7:30:11 GMT -5
The Church of Faith, Fury and Redemption is selling the Los V Slam Dancer. Shouldn't they be selling the Fennian model instead?
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Post by fallen on May 29, 2012 9:48:24 GMT -5
The latest release has intentionally switched this to the Blue Ox model. The lines in the NBZ are never that clear.
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Post by grävling on May 29, 2012 9:52:27 GMT -5
It wasn't clear to me that the Blue Ox model had survived the change. But given that FF&R has the Fennian only ammo room, I thought it would make sense for it to have the Fennian club as well. Maybe let the Nu-Sword sell Blue Ox clubs, if you want them available in South Ganger land?
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Post by Cory Trese on May 30, 2012 0:05:54 GMT -5
It wasn't clear to me that the Blue Ox model had survived the change. But given that FF&R has the Fennian only ammo room, I thought it would make sense for it to have the Fennian club as well. Maybe let the Nu-Sword sell Blue Ox clubs, if you want them available in South Ganger land? Good suggestion. I was intentionally not messing with the backrooms except I think I messed it up a bit here. I think overall it is an improvement, things seem to make more sense to me now. A few kinks need to be addressed tho. |
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Post by grävling on May 30, 2012 2:43:04 GMT -5
It wasn't clear to me that the Blue Ox model had survived the change. But given that FF&R has the Fennian only ammo room, I thought it would make sense for it to have the Fennian club as well. Maybe let the Nu-Sword sell Blue Ox clubs, if you want them available in South Ganger land? Good suggestion. I was intentionally not messing with the backrooms except I think I messed it up a bit here. I think overall it is an improvement, things seem to make more sense to me now. A few kinks need to be addressed tho. Well, the Los V club is currently being sold in the FF&R public weapons store ... I agree that the reorganisation is over-all an improvement. But given that the Fennian motto is 'it is all about loyalty and trust', and that FF&R is not just some store but clearly one of the focal points for the Fennian organisation (it has a secret ammo store and a Connector, after all) then I think it ought to be selling the Fennian clubs and not the Los V ones as a matter of principle. After the reorganisation, some other kinks that bother me: 1. I don't think that any of the weapon stores in corps land should be selling any ganger-made items, especially clubs, at all. I'm sort of iffy on them selling cromer gloves, also. Corp citizens are expected to walk around with the new taser personal defence weapons, not thug sledges and the like. stores effected -- Aztek Commerce Center (Security Glove) Fairlight Defense HQ (Steel Enforcer) Mars Corp Importers (Steel Enforcer) Six Shooter Club (Chrome Knuckler) Unified Metals Research, Silver Empress back room (MT Chrome Fist) I am more ok with this because Yakashima has fewer stores in ganger territory, than I am ok with the Aztek and Mars stores selling such types of weapons.Salvation Incorporated (Slam Dancer, Cut Hammer) Mercury Arms Surplus Store (Chrome Knuckler) I am more ok with this, as it is a Surplus store, but are Raptor IIIs showing up in surplus now? Because they sell that.Midway Club (Chrome Knuckler, Steel Enforcer, Fennian Shock Maul) Crash Mansion (Thug Sledge, Thug Cutter, Blasta Gun) I definitely think that the first two should go. Depending on what you do to the Blasta Gun w.r.t. it not being an inferior to Corps-made weapons, maybe it should go as well. Or maybe its intended market is the bored Mars citizen youths who think that the ganger ethos is cool?2. Logical Tech LLC has a description that makes it sound like it specialises in cyberware and computers, maybe maglocks as well. Welcome to Logical Tech, Knight. Formed in 2195, Logical Tech has been providing advanced cybernetic input and interface devices for over 2 decades. Yes, of course, a Mars Corp property. Only the best.Instead it specialises in Mars tech gloves (and also sells the Fennian shock Maul). Either its description needs to be changed or its store contents. But I am actually pretty happy with the store contents, and the idea that the Corps sell their brown gloves outside of Corp land. So I think it makes sense to change the name of the store and its description. This place is in competition with the Nu-Sword, and should be a CyberSword hangout. Maybe make it the headquarters of the International Boxing Association? (this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association_%28professional_body%29 ) not ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association ) . 3. More than 1 store (Remington Arms) should sell the new Assault guns. 4. I think that Back Bay Importers -- which does live up to its motto of 'we sell the best gear, no matter which corps make it' should have a slightly larger inventory. 5. I'd really like it if the Secure Yakahima Tech-Station would finally open. 6. The Claire Street Thrift Store has the conversation T hat looks like one hell of a computer you've got behind those bars.
If you don't have a computer this nice, already, Knight it's time to upgrade. The better computer you have, the more work you can get, and the more money you can make.But she only sells a single 1 job computer -- admitedly with 200MP storage for Y9250. I think that her selection of comptuers for sale should be greatly extended. I know that this is not related to the new weapons, but it has been bugging me for quite some time now. 7. Boston Rifles Import now sells pistol ammo, even though it doesn't sell any pistols, and doesn't sell any automatic ammo, even though its rifles want them. This should be swapped around. But otherwise, I am pretty happy with the stores now. If only somebody had a non-lethal gun that was suitable for Sniper runners... (I know, never satisfied.  ) |
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Post by gravismetallum on May 30, 2012 4:21:41 GMT -5
That's some serious attention to detail, and some solid logic....gotta agree with gravling on that stuff.
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Post by nemesis on May 30, 2012 18:12:14 GMT -5
gravs makes alot of sense and I would really like to see Secure Yakahima Tech-Station open  I built 300 rep with Yakashima for the sole purpose of getting inside that location ;D |
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Post by grävling on Jun 1, 2012 2:20:03 GMT -5
I just noticed that the Back Bay Importers in Old Kenmore have become an exclusively Yakashima-made weapons outlet. But there motto is that they sell the best tech, no matter which corp makes it, so they should have some selections from Aztek and Mars as well.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 2, 2012 15:17:23 GMT -5
I agree with all of it. You'd be surprised how much data there is to keep straight and it is a matter of time and quality.
We want to make progress forward on equipment and stores and each release will continue to contain iterative improvements.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 2, 2012 20:59:52 GMT -5
Probably won't make this next release but it is in progress!
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Post by nemesis on Jun 2, 2012 23:22:49 GMT -5
Take your time on this one ;D I'm more interested on the other positive events with positive rep  |
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Post by grävling on Jun 3, 2012 0:40:12 GMT -5
Probably won't make this next release but it is in progress! Thank you. |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 3, 2012 15:59:26 GMT -5
Probably won't make this next release but it is in progress! Thank you. Honestly, no, thank you. Your post is very helpful. sometimes after a while of staring at the grid of numbers you loose perspective. |
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Post by grävling on Jun 11, 2012 7:24:48 GMT -5
While you are adjusting shops -- Boston Rifles should sell auto rounds to go with the rifles it sells. Instead it only sells pistol rounds.
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Post by grävling on Jun 12, 2012 5:32:23 GMT -5
I just visited the Church of FF&R's backroom. When I was last there, they only had ammo, nice to see they have weapons now as well. And here you can find the single Blue Ox Doom Hammer I was able to find in the game. So it looks like FF&R is selling Los V and Blue Ox
Hammers, (the Los V in their main room and the Blue Ox in their back room) but aren't selling the Fennian version at all. I wonder what they know that I don't? Do the Fennian ones tend to come apart when under great stress .... or blow up unexpectedly... hmmm
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