roemann
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Post by roemann on Dec 10, 2012 20:38:12 GMT -5
I noticed that the new ships seem to come up disproportionatly often; almost every dock, and often enough to notice, they come up multiple times in the same dock. Was this intended?
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Post by Cory Trese on Dec 10, 2012 21:45:05 GMT -5
I noticed that the new ships seem to come up disproportionatly often; almost every dock, and often enough to notice, they come up multiple times in the same dock. Was this intended? It's totally random, just a roll of the dice. I can look at it some more if you have a specific ship in mind. Did the basic distribution check to ensure no corruption of the APK distributed via Google Play and ran 1000 dock runs to measure the randomizer and distribution curve. Everything appears normal on the devices tested. I'll log a bug if there are specific details but the broad investigation showed totally normal behavior. Random number generators can be tricky tho, once you start looking for a pattern you can almost always find one. A study in the 1990s showed that 85% of people faced with a non-repeating sequence of numbers believed there was a pattern, even if they couldn't identify one.
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Post by roemann on Dec 10, 2012 22:04:30 GMT -5
Cory, I understand the intended statistics, but when the new Hyperion ships come up at nearly every dock, even when there are only two ships available, and come up three our four times when the dock has more than a few new ships it looks funny. I just finished a couple of hundred year game so Im not taking about isolated observations, but dozens, if not hundreds of docks. I did not record any specifics, unfortunately, but I believe what I saw was a real bias.
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Post by starfixer on Dec 10, 2012 22:28:59 GMT -5
I didn't notice that. One of the joys of android is that there can be bugs specific to certain phones ;D
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Post by Cory Trese on Dec 10, 2012 23:00:37 GMT -5
Cory, I understand the intended statistics, but when the new Hyperion ships come up at nearly every dock, even when there are only two ships available, and come up three our four times when the dock has more than a few new ships it looks funny. I just finished a couple of hundred year game so Im not taking about isolated observations, but dozens, if not hundreds of docks. I did not record any specifics, unfortunately, but I believe what I saw was a real bias. I will certainly investigate the reported issue even if I haven't been able to replicate it on any devices -- perhaps there is some issue I'm not seeing on our devices! I will say that the way the 3 Hyperion ships were added was identical to 152 previous releases that contained ship upgrades. I feel pretty confident that we would have seen the issue in previous releases, however, it is possible that something else is going on. I played a few thousand turns on a few devices today after work, looking for StarFixer's combat bug and testing Awards (had about 40 confused people today regarding various Unlocks) and saw the Hyperion ships in the correct distribution. Can you post what Device and OS you use, I can test with the same hardware and OS version potentially, which might help narrow down your report. Thanks! PS: You're not looking at "Rank Ships" right?
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Post by Cory Trese on Dec 10, 2012 23:09:16 GMT -5
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Post by roemann on Dec 10, 2012 23:17:13 GMT -5
I am using a Samsung Galaxy S, first one, with gingerbread 2.3.5, rooted. And, no, I am not talking about Rank ships, just "new ships for auction."
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Post by Cory Trese on Dec 10, 2012 23:19:56 GMT -5
I am using a Samsung Galaxy S, first one, with gingerbread 2.3.5, rooted. And, no, I am not talking about Rank ships, just "new ships for auction." OK, I will look into it, thanks for the report. Haven't heard it from any other sources yet, so just going to do testing and code reviews. As of yet, haven't seen it on any devices, including the Galaxy S (not rooted, gingerbread.)
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Post by starfixer on Dec 10, 2012 23:49:52 GMT -5
Speaking of ships, when are we going to get another big crew ship? I feel that all the ships with big crew (180+) are all relatively old.
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Post by Cory Trese on Dec 11, 2012 0:52:46 GMT -5
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