martyparty
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Post by martyparty on Jan 3, 2013 22:44:32 GMT -5
Okay so there's a "flavour text" rumour which often comes up telling you that when you fly the ship of one faction, other factions trust you less.
Well, does that mean it's worth paying a little bit more for a "commercial" ship like the Spear Class, instead of the Honor of Thulun, when their stats are very similar?
In what ways do they "trust you less"?
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 3, 2013 23:20:03 GMT -5
Great question. The rumor in question is talking about the Faction design of the ship.
If you click "Status > Character" you'll see a flag indicating the Faction of your Captain.
If you click "Status > Ship" you'll see a flag indicating the Faction of your Ship.
The Spear Class comes in all six Factions and Independent.
by "trust you less" it means that they'll be more aggressive towards you in penalizing your reputation (warships) and less likely to surrendering to your blockades.
Your Crew will appreciate the Captain more if the Captain Faction and the Ship Faction are the same. By appreciate, I mean that they are 2.1% less likely to suffer Morale loss in deep space.
There are probably other minor rules squirreled away in the vast blog of Java and C that is ST RPG, but this should give you an idea what that text means.
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Post by martyparty on Jan 3, 2013 23:38:40 GMT -5
Cool, thanks for the info. I think I'll only check for new ships when I'm on my own faction's planets then. Wouldn't want the crew to think I'm flying an inferior brand of ship.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 20:27:57 GMT -5
Speaking of blockade, I haven't noticed much of a diference when blockading with and without a death warrent. You stated at one point that it made a difference but I don't notice it.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 4, 2013 21:10:41 GMT -5
Speaking of blockade, I haven't noticed much of a diference when blockading with and without a death warrent. You stated at one point that it made a difference but I don't notice it. A little bit off topic, but either way -- not everyone will notice or be concerned with every rule. |
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Post by martyparty on Jan 6, 2013 18:40:28 GMT -5
Are there some ships besides Rank ships, that never turn up in the shipyard of some factions? I started only looking for new ships on De Valtos planets, and I've seen all the high level ships, except the ones with 180+ cargo holds. I can understand if the best ships are rare, but I've checked over, and over, and over!
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 6, 2013 18:44:58 GMT -5
Are there some ships besides Rank ships, that never turn up in the shipyard of some factions? I started only looking for new ships on De Valtos planets, and I've seen all the high level ships, except the ones with 180+ cargo holds. I can understand if the best ships are rare, but I've checked over, and over, and over! Yes, some ships are exclusive to the top shipyards of Thulun and Cadar. These "best ships" are algorithmically determined in each release, so they represent the top end. Depending on the number of ships currently in the game that number may between 0 and 4 per category (at this time, slowly scaling towards 0 to 5.) There is information about which shipyards and factions this applies to the in help file, under "Factions" |
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Post by martyparty on Jan 6, 2013 18:55:34 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm playing Thulun from now on then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 19:27:14 GMT -5
Never noticed that. What makes a ship top end? I used to get my ships from syndacate capital, a de valtos planet. The omega cruiser including, which I though was THE top end as its the most expensive ship in the game.
As enemy lv increases, do the quality of ships they carry increase to infiniy or at some point does it stay the same (will an lv 400 enemy be likely to carry a better ship than an lv 300 enemy)?
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Post by martyparty on Jan 6, 2013 19:35:31 GMT -5
by "trust you less" it means that they'll be more aggressive towards you in penalizing your reputation (warships) and less likely to surrendering to your blockades. Surprisingly, this would mean that your best results for working against a faction, is in one of their own ships?!!  Wouldn't have thought so, as normally "traitors" are the most hated. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 7:02:41 GMT -5
Which ships only are in cadar and thulun specificly? I think I've seen every ship either at syndacate capital or being flown by a non-cadar non-thulun faction one time or another.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 9, 2013 21:58:37 GMT -5
Which ships only are in cadar and thulun specificly? I think I've seen every ship either at syndacate capital or being flown by a non-cadar non-thulun faction one time or another. These "best ships" are algorithmically determined in each release, so they represent the top end. That is to say -- it changes over time and eventually across multiple releases you would see every ship you previously saw in Syndicate Capital. Ships flown by Captains are not limited by the same scaling equation. So, no point in asking for a specific list, no such list exists |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 23:06:41 GMT -5
Which ships only are in cadar and thulun specificly? I think I've seen every ship either at syndacate capital or being flown by a non-cadar non-thulun faction one time or another. These "best ships" are algorithmically determined in each release, so they represent the top end. That is to say -- it changes over time and eventually across multiple releases you would see every ship you previously saw in Syndicate Capital. Ships flown by Captains are not limited by the same scaling equation. So, no point in asking for a specific list, no such list exists So the ship that I see in de valtos aren't the top end ships? Why are ships flown by captains not limited with the same eqution? Aren't most capains limited to the ships that their facton sells? How about a list of the top end ships for the latest release? Just trying to get an idea what would be considdered top end, because many ships that in my oppinion would be top end apparently aren't. |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 9, 2013 23:15:17 GMT -5
The Starport and Enemy generator use different equations and dice for balance reasons.
Always focused on maintaining what SlayerNZ called "white knuckle turn-based gamep lay" which in general requires a lot of math and variability in some places that might not be expected at first.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 10, 2013 2:58:48 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm playing Thulun from now on then. Mission Accomplished! Long live House Thulun. |
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