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Post by absimiliard on Nov 4, 2013 14:10:22 GMT -5
Thx Fallen. Just a mis impression on my part then. Reverse engineering a game system from a small subset of available data is always like that for me, a sequence of assumptions which might or might not be true that I need to figure out how to test.
-abs
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Post by rabidbite on Nov 4, 2013 16:57:55 GMT -5
Another game down the toilet. And this one was on nightmare. The Deathkin just appeared. It was an automatic kill on its part. One day I shall have more than tears of frutration! I shall have REVENGE!!! (The sound bar is me trying to lessen the volume so I don't have to hear the meaty sounds of the blades gutting my thief)  |
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Post by fallen on Nov 4, 2013 17:38:01 GMT -5
Thx Fallen. Just a mis impression on my part then. Reverse engineering a game system from a small subset of available data is always like that for me, a sequence of assumptions which might or might not be true that I need to figure out how to test. -abs We definitely owe more information to the team and are working on getting it into the game even now! |
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Post by fallen on Nov 4, 2013 17:38:52 GMT -5
rabidbite - argh! The ratty bastard. Really makes you hate him, huh? I am changing some of their balancing stats to make them less of a "guaranteed death upon sighting" 
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Post by rabidbite on Nov 4, 2013 17:47:25 GMT -5
rabidbite - argh! The ratty bastard. Really makes you hate him, huh? I am changing some of their balancing stats to make them less of a "guaranteed death upon sighting" I kind of want to beat this bastard in all its pumped up horror. If i can just figure out a way to keep the damage output manageable. I know I can take him out. |
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Post by absimiliard on Nov 4, 2013 17:48:13 GMT -5
That's not how I meant it Fallen. I enjoy figuring things out. Figuring out the internals of how your games work is what interests me most about them. (you guys have an excellent complexity under the surfaces of your games, I like figuring that complexity out)
Abs
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Post by fallen on Nov 4, 2013 23:59:19 GMT -5
An observation, are the abilities of the Outlander playing correction in terms of Savage Sweep I on nightmare? I don't see much of a change in to-hit chances even with the +3 accuracy. For example, I am getting 1-2 in 6 chance of hitting against Cave Spiders, with or without Savage Sweep I. I DO see the change with the +3 ranged accuracy of the Thief's Aimed Shot. From 1 in 5 I am getting around 2-3 in 5, which is double the hits. I ran about 40ish attempts in a row (continue recycle button) to test. - I am impressed! After check the code, you are completely correct. Any melee empowered attack that was adding accuracy was putting the bonus dice into the standard dice pool instead of into the strong dice pool, per the design. However, ranged empowered attacks were putting their dice into the strong dice pool. You called it! Thanks for this really sharp catch, fixed for next update. Savage Sweep is still adding accuracy, just not with the same ummph that you get from Aimed Shot though. |
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Post by beuns on Nov 5, 2013 0:04:30 GMT -5
Wow ! Even if he's enraged he still got perfectly working eye  nice catch rabidbite ! |
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Post by rabidbite on Nov 5, 2013 6:34:01 GMT -5
Glad it was caught. This should have an interesting effect on balance issues.
Maybe I can finally HIT that white faced rat bastard....
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Post by rabidbite on Nov 5, 2013 15:21:14 GMT -5
............. FALLEN!!!! The Deathkin has 1 attack PER 1 AP in Nightmare!!!!?
I managed to tickle it with -4 damage from a fireball. I see the Thief's Aimed Shot hitting without doing damage (blood spills, no damage). Thus, i haven't been able to damage the DKING with my thief, outlander OR cleric. Well I guess I could try with the outlander, if I wanted an automatic death.
(Sits in the corner and sulks while drawing decapitated rats.)
In conclusion. The lvl 1 Dking is completely out of my lvl 1 team to destroy. Circle strategy does not work in nightmare. Not even close. I haven't tried on Brutal.
rabid
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Post by fallen on Nov 5, 2013 15:33:42 GMT -5
rabidbite - I think we can all agree he is a mite overpowered!!!
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Post by rabidbite on Nov 5, 2013 15:35:37 GMT -5
rabidbite - I think we can all agree he is a mite overpowered!!! Hell of a challenge though. It's got me focused. |
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Post by absimiliard on Nov 5, 2013 15:38:15 GMT -5
Good luck rabid, I doubt a nightmare deathkin can be taken at level 1, but I wish you luck.
-abs
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Post by fallen on Nov 5, 2013 16:15:22 GMT -5
Trouble is, once you run into them, there is literally no escape ...
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Post by absimiliard on Nov 5, 2013 23:57:26 GMT -5
We could use a way to end a combat besides winning, at the moment that's the only way I know of.
Abs
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nice catch