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Post by achilles73 on Dec 13, 2016 22:15:52 GMT -5
ROFL, after 1 fight I found 3 chests and about 6 SP pots. So I am ok for now. I still want to head back to town though...
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Post by En1gma on Dec 13, 2016 22:28:09 GMT -5
When you drop down, you need to fight your way south, through some scripted fights... Once you get far enough, the thief should show you the rubble that you can climb. It should be due south of the first drop down, and will be a white/silver color with light rays coming down from the top. I'll look for a game that is in Oskahold, give me a few...
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Post by fallen on Dec 13, 2016 22:29:21 GMT -5
There are areas of rubble you can use to climb up to the vault. You can't get back to Oskahold until you go through like 3-4 fights, so pace yourself and keep your health up as best you can. Play super defensive, and just make it through. Chances are good you'll see your first death down there if you can't keep your front line safe... Be. Careful. Good sir. Where is the rubble area in? The first dungeon? I am desperate  When you approach the first one, there is a dialog that specifically points it out. This picture shows one -- just left of the campsite  |
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Post by En1gma on Dec 13, 2016 22:35:32 GMT -5
Here is the specific one you need-- Kincaid is at the rubble, everyone else is pointing back where you dropped down.  |
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Post by achilles73 on Dec 13, 2016 22:49:41 GMT -5
OMG, guys. That was brutal. I found a stairway in a fight with 2 shamans and their minions. I had zero consumables after the fight, and everyone's SP was spent, and Selen was down to 30 HP or so. But no one died! This game is very challenging even at Normal  |
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Dec 13, 2016 23:46:35 GMT -5
OMG, guys. That was brutal. I found a stairway in a fight with 2 shamans and their minions. I had zero consumables after the fight, and everyone's SP was spent, and Selen was down to 30 HP or so. But no one died! This game is very challenging even at Normal It gets way easier once the learning curve tapers off, at least it did for me. If you have a battle in hand, and your enemies are cursed on their dodge and/or parry then you can start to use basic attacks to save on sp. Generally speaking curse first, since they are guaranteed hits, then cursing attacks 'cause they cause dmg and make enemies easier to hit and/or dmg. Then spend remaining ap scouting the shadows or repositioning if needed, otherwise empowered attacks if needed, else basic attacks if the battle is mostly won i.e. AoE and extra dmg potential of empowered attacks are no longer important. Buff between battles rather than spending ap in combat when possible. You can let some buffs remain expired when combat is under your control. Personally I tend to kill things based on how much dmg they can do to me vs how many hp they have left, if being in range is equal. Say one can hit me for 50, but has 300 hp, and another can hit me for 30 but has 120 hp, I'm gonna kill that 120 guy cause I can kill two of them and possibly save myself 10 pts of dmg, or if there's no second of that 120hp type, then at least I'm pretty sure I can take that 1 down, while 300hp may require lucky rolls. It gets more complicated with enemies that curse, but in general that order of attacks helps me mitigate the dmg I take. |
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Post by fallen on Dec 14, 2016 0:18:28 GMT -5
OMG, guys. That was brutal. I found a stairway in a fight with 2 shamans and their minions. I had zero consumables after the fight, and everyone's SP was spent, and Selen was down to 30 HP or so. But no one died! This game is very challenging even at Normal Glad to hear its got you on your toes and keeping your tactics planning on point! I hope you'll leave a review on Steam if you're having fun! |
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Post by achilles73 on Dec 14, 2016 9:05:15 GMT -5
OMG, guys. That was brutal. I found a stairway in a fight with 2 shamans and their minions. I had zero consumables after the fight, and everyone's SP was spent, and Selen was down to 30 HP or so. But no one died! This game is very challenging even at Normal It gets way easier once the learning curve tapers off, at least it did for me. If you have a battle in hand, and your enemies are cursed on their dodge and/or parry then you can start to use basic attacks to save on sp. Generally speaking curse first, since they are guaranteed hits, then cursing attacks 'cause they cause dmg and make enemies easier to hit and/or dmg. Then spend remaining ap scouting the shadows or repositioning if needed, otherwise empowered attacks if needed, else basic attacks if the battle is mostly won i.e. AoE and extra dmg potential of empowered attacks are no longer important. Buff between battles rather than spending ap in combat when possible. You can let some buffs remain expired when combat is under your control. Personally I tend to kill things based on how much dmg they can do to me vs how many hp they have left, if being in range is equal. Say one can hit me for 50, but has 300 hp, and another can hit me for 30 but has 120 hp, I'm gonna kill that 120 guy cause I can kill two of them and possibly save myself 10 pts of dmg, or if there's no second of that 120hp type, then at least I'm pretty sure I can take that 1 down, while 300hp may require lucky rolls. It gets more complicated with enemies that curse, but in general that order of attacks helps me mitigate the dmg I take. Yup. I curse first - though my curses are mostly defensive and makes the mobs hit less hard, rather than make them easier to hit. I will try to play with your target priorities then. The only issue is that I don't currently know which mobs do what |
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Post by achilles73 on Dec 14, 2016 9:05:54 GMT -5
OMG, guys. That was brutal. I found a stairway in a fight with 2 shamans and their minions. I had zero consumables after the fight, and everyone's SP was spent, and Selen was down to 30 HP or so. But no one died! This game is very challenging even at Normal Glad to hear its got you on your toes and keeping your tactics planning on point! I hope you'll leave a review on Steam if you're having fun! I may when I finish a few games. I am a "completionist," so I don't like to venture comments on stuff I don't thoroughly understand |
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Dec 14, 2016 15:06:52 GMT -5
achilles73 you should be getting dodge cursing with ap cursing. EA and FF both curse dodge, as does CS if you go for that later, PS drops parry and dodge.
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Post by achilles73 on Dec 14, 2016 19:02:36 GMT -5
achilles73 you should be getting dodge cursing with ap cursing. EA and FF both curse dodge, as does CS if you go for that later, PS drops parry and dodge. I can't believe I died. I pressed turn finish button by mistake at the start of a fight Now my score will go to hell... |
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Post by matrim on Dec 14, 2016 19:36:53 GMT -5
Dying a few times (especially on your first run through) is natural. Your score does not suffer much for it, just don't die hundreds of times!
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Post by En1gma on Dec 14, 2016 19:39:54 GMT -5
Seriously though-- don't sweat the score on your first run through. Just enjoy the story and get to know the game. It's only your first run, and to get to the Krete without biting it is an accomplishment in itself.
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Post by fallen on Dec 14, 2016 19:43:51 GMT -5
I can't believe I died. I pressed turn finish button by mistake ... On our feature request list to add a confirm if your party combined has more than 10 remaining AP. |
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Post by matrim on Dec 14, 2016 19:57:52 GMT -5
fallen That sounds like a great feature!
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