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Post by fallen on May 19, 2014 23:56:34 GMT -5
Please post screenshots of your Empire Summary and of the zoomed out map!
Please also add your difficulty in the post!
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Post by ChocoCrowbar on May 20, 2014 0:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by beuns on May 20, 2014 0:22:56 GMT -5
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Post by shapcano on May 20, 2014 6:15:38 GMT -5
  Normal diff on a small map. |
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 5:37:22 GMT -5
I would very much like to know what happened here.
At around 9.0AE, my economy went, in one turn, from $600 revenue a turn to -1.2k revenue a turn.
3 turns prior I was at +1.1k per turn with 9.0k in the bank.
morale was great, all positive treaties.
maintenance rate went from 97% to 103% in one turn.
During that turn, 3 things happened.
2 new ships came on line, which i have since canned.
i commissioned a starport 4 on an overcrowded world so i could drop a factory and add a hab.
that hab never got added because the money was gone.
now i am here with no hope of recovery:
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Post by contributor on May 22, 2014 5:43:24 GMT -5
Haven't played in about a week, due to travel so no pictures here. nails, did you start a bunch of building projects, turning off idle, credit-producing CP? Did you have Trade Alliances that all expired at the same time? In the last version it quit giving you updates about expiring alliances later in the game. |
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 6:16:34 GMT -5
Nope.
Same controlled growth.
Same number of alliances.
but I got a huge spike in maintenance costs and my morale is dropping, which is increasing my maintenance costs.
I dropped some factories and got down to -300, but thst b is the best I can do.
I blame the starport 4, which i wasn't going to do, but I needed new cp with new buildings.
then you can't downgrade those so you have to kill off factories which don't have the same maintenance impact.
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 6:40:05 GMT -5
My frustration wasn't that i tanked.
i did some expansion and building that i should have paid more attention to.
It was the off the edge of a cliff, catastrophic failure, sun went super nova without warning destruction of my economy within maybe 3 turns.
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 7:15:30 GMT -5
I am at -18000 at the bank
demolished every palace 2 and my lone spice den
i am now back at +150 a turn.
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Post by contributor on May 22, 2014 7:54:27 GMT -5
Abort mission, abort mission......
Just to put it in perspective, as frustrating as it is, this is the alpha and for some mad reason we all paid to be here. Your empire has gone supernova to help the TB's balance out the game and make sure the same thing doesn't happen to other players down the road who will take it out on them in 1 star reviews in the markets.
So let me just say to your -18000 in the bank, job well done sir! You may have set a record which will never be touched once this whole thing is fine-tuned.
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 9:10:10 GMT -5
I actually kept going.
Averaging out at 0 income a turn.
I learned some things, I think, about how to curb some of the % problems but I am too far gone to actually recover.
I have a bit if concern that the 10% penalty per moral point below 10 is a bit much.
Maybe a scale more like
10:+10%
9:+5%
8: 0
7: -5%
6:-10%
5:-15%
4:-20%
3:-40%
2:-70%
1:-100%
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Post by Cory Trese on May 22, 2014 11:20:05 GMT -5
I actually kept going. Averaging out at 0 income a turn. I learned some things, I think, about how to curb some of the % problems but I am too far gone to actually recover. I have a bit if concern that the 10% penalty per moral point below 10 is a bit much. Maybe a scale more like 10:+10% 9:+5% 8: 0 7: -5% 6:-10% 5:-15% 4:-20% 3:-40% 2:-70% 1:-100% I will look at softening the penalties for the lower difficulties. |
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Post by nails on May 22, 2014 11:43:19 GMT -5
Maybe a doubling penalty starting at 7?
2-4-8-16-32-64-128
I have no problem paying a stiff penalty when morale gets low, but currently, the penalties get pretty stiff by 6.
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on May 22, 2014 11:56:42 GMT -5
Abort mission, abort mission...... Just to put it in perspective, as frustrating as it is, this is the alpha and for some mad reason we all paid to be here. Your empire has gone supernova to help the TB's balance out the game and make sure the same thing doesn't happen to other players down the road who will take it out on them in 1 star reviews in the markets. So let me just say to your -18000 in the bank, job well done sir! You may have set a record which will never be touched once this whole thing is fine-tuned. The reason we paid to be here is because of the subliminal messages Cory Trese and fallen put in their games |
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Post by Cory Trese on May 22, 2014 12:06:35 GMT -5
Maybe a doubling penalty starting at 7? 2-4-8-16-32-64-128 I have no problem paying a stiff penalty when morale gets low, but currently, the penalties get pretty stiff by 6. That's intentional, the penalties at Morale 6 in ST are equally stiff. I will try scaling it back a bit on the lower difficulties and see if the game still provides enough dramatic swings in the economy to remain a challenge. I won't make any changes to Impossible, which is already really a lot nastier than Normal. |
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