Two Political Things

[contributor]

It looks like Spy Wars have disappeared from the Library. Unless somehow they are escaping me again.

I see you upped the price on creating Trade Alliances. I figured though "it must be worth the price or it wouldn't be there." I was very happy when it announced that it had completely successfully. But when I went to my politics screen there was no trade Alliance. This may be a bug, or it may be that I don't understand the politics system. Sort of frustrating though when you flush a thousand creds down the drain.

[Cory Trese]

Library entries are related to Tech. I will check to see where you get the details about Spy War.

Completed Political projects will be weighted against existing ones, and sometimes they don't stick.

I will work on making that generate a "Failed" message instead of a "Success" message.

Thanks!

[contributor]

Thanks.

Is the stick factor, factored into the costs of different projects? If I've got a 40% chance of completing a project and 70% chance of having it stick that should be factored in.

In my current game it was pretty annoying though, because the next turn after my Alliance didn't stick a Solar War started and then a few turns later a Trade Embargo. Really made me wonder why I was spending money on stuff if I was just going to get bent over the barrel anyways.

[contributor]

I've now had 2 Trade Treaties that have been "successful" but have not turned a trade route into a trade alliance. In one case I had three trade routes so I know there were some options. Is it pointless to try to do a new treaty if there are already 3? Between the ones that aren't successful and the ones that don't "stick" I'm blowing a lot of money on this and getting nothing for it. Are others successfully getting Trade Alliances?

[nails]

Same here.
and I can't stop a war either

[John Robinson]

The reminder message to start a new tech research project is very useful. I get into situations where I cannot
afford to work on a political projects but get a reminder every turn to start one.

I don't want to turn off all reminder messages. I cannot remember if this was already addressed somewhere in the forum
as being an Alpha only message.  Sorry I'm short on Frontal Cortex ram, only have 2 MB.
Thanks

[contributor]

My third Trade Meeting gave me a trade route instead of turning an existing trade route into a trade alliance.

[Brutus Aurelius]

Trade Meetings only make Trade Routes. You want to use Trade Treaties to upgrade them to Alliances.

[contributor]

Sorry, I've actually been using the wrong term in this thread. I've been doing Trade Treaties the whole time. Despite three successful tries they've never turned a trade route into an Alliance. One time the did create a route though.

[contributor]

Sorry to keep hammering on this. I just had another "successful" Trade Alliance that didn't create a trade alliance. I've spent over 10,000 credits and have yet to get a single successful trade alliance. Either I'm getting seriously bad rolls or something is broken.

[contributor]

Another politics question. Is a Trade Embargo the same thing as a Trade Ban. I'm getting Trade Embargoes forming, but I only have a political treaty that ends Trade Bans. The library also only speaks of Trade Bans. It seems like the language needs to be consistent. Also I don't see an entry for Alliances in the Library, unless Alliances and Trade Alliances are the same thing, in which case they need to be made consistent as well.

[beuns]

I too have a hard time understand how politics works. It's still very unclear. I know it affects my economics but I have a really hard time to figure what is doing what.

[ChocoCrowbar]

All I know is that alliances and trade routes are good; solar wars and trade bans are bad; and spy wars are a mix of the two.

What I do and how it affects these things IDK.

[fallen]

Thanks, we're working on it and will get back to this thread in a bit.

@chococrowbar - I'd suggest reading about it in the Library!

[ncaoa]

So there's a second dice roll to see if a treaty sticks? I had a "successful" Dual of Assassins but the Solar War did not change.