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Post by resistor on Jan 13, 2016 18:36:14 GMT -5
Most of you have heard of what's happening in Oregon, right? I hope I'm not breaking any rules by talking about controversial things, but I assume if there was such a rule there would be a locked topic stating it like the post about fan fiction policy. Anyway, this is probably very important, especially for US citizens. This video talks about how what the Bureau of Land Management does is in direct opposition to the Constitution (article 1, section 8, clause 17).
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Jan 13, 2016 18:59:03 GMT -5
She's trying too hard... 9th amendment to the Bill of Rights technically gives US citizens all the rights held BEFORE the constitution... But that has been ignored for a very long time. Sometimes it should be (ignored) for the common welfare to prevent tyranny of the masses and tragedy of the commons. Other times it is ignored to be a cause a governmental tyranny. Still other times, 6 one, half dozen the other... Universal human rights are gonna be ignored for some time yet due to us vs them mentalities rather than the golden rule being practiced...
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Post by dayan on Jan 13, 2016 19:36:26 GMT -5
I certainly didn't expect to run into this here.
I won't add to it other than to say I'm keeping a wary eye on the situation.
Papa Delta.
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Post by beverage on Jan 13, 2016 23:23:09 GMT -5
As an Australian I confess to being somewhat 'disappointed' that a nation I have always considered a credit to world (and still do as regards technology and science) has begun to descend down the slope of Totalitarianism. Seems you guys are being relegated to slaves of the financial class that has spent the better part of a Century stealing all the wealth that the hard working citizenry has generated and then even stealing your homes while their deliberate undermining of the system they control goes unpunished and in fact gets rewarded with Trillion dollar bailouts. All the blood sacrificed by brave men and women so obscenely wealthy assholes can plunder the wealth of foreign nations under the notion of spreading 'Freedom' whilst they trample the rights of their own citizenry is remarkably hypocritical. I hope that things get better before they get tragic. Kill in the most violent fashion the Bankers, Stockbrokers and complicit elected representatives who have gutted your great nation. Stop the blatant manipulation of your political system through "contribution's" that solicit policies that steal off the masses whilst guarding themselves from any indictment. Most of all, ignore anything the main stream media tells you. They are the favoured tool of oppression. Love from Australia
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Jan 13, 2016 23:32:42 GMT -5
Honestly classism was worse 100 and 150 years ago in the US... It's a cyclic and general human problem that rears its head pretty frequently. We just need another trust-busting era. Nothing new under the sun.
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Post by beverage on Jan 14, 2016 4:10:26 GMT -5
wascalwywabbitExcept for the worldwide spy network, the financial manipulation and theft of assets far in excess of what has ever existed and the rapacious military industrial complex that must justify unlawful deployments by manipulating a global news network to convince fools that the only way to be safe is to deploy Billions of dollars of weaponry on far away nations that a large portion of American's could not even point to on a map. The massive nuclear arsenal in the hands of self confessed religious fanatics, in love with armageddon because just maybe Jeebus will return, and whom continue to fight against teaching children the truth lest it corrupt their blind belief. And lets not go into the Ecological Catastrophe that we continue to blunder towards for the sake of keeping this most disgusting system that has birthed all these atrocities ticking over as per usual. I think it's a little more severe than just another quaint class struggle. Anyways, its not all bad, I just get wound up sometimes
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Jan 14, 2016 4:35:58 GMT -5
Still just a certain intensity characteristic of the tech today not at all a uniquely human depravity compared to bygone ages. It may be a type of serfdom for example, but it's not a culture of chattel slavery anymore.
Nukes are a problem yes, as is disease and malnutrition etc. But the humanities have improved, artists have gained skills never before known, there are whole categories of science and tech and education the former times scarcely imagined.
Too much sourness in the mouth makes the teeth and digestion sensitive - to coin/borrow a proverbial phrase...
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