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Post by Fourth Horseman on Aug 28, 2016 19:14:12 GMT -5
This might be old news, but came across a re release of MOO on steam. Collector edition also available containing 1,2,3 and a bunch of art and other goodies.
I figured y'all might be interested because ST and ST4X are similar.
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Post by resistor on Aug 28, 2016 20:01:09 GMT -5
Should I bring up that Cory Trese has gone on record in 2011 saying ST4X will be a Master of Orion clone? Masters of Orion is a 4X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Orion) Star Traders RPG Is a Role Playing Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game) I did not try to make a 4X game. When I try to make a Masters of Orion clone, you will know because it will be a 4X game.If you care to take my side in this debate then just remember -- Star Traders RPG is NOT trying to be a 4X. It is trying to be a RPG. Therefore, of course it is the "worst copy ever" of MOO. Yes, it is a terrible copy of Master of Orion. That is like saying that my beat up old truck is a terrible hovercraft. Heck yes my truck is a terrible hovercraft. Worst hovercraft ever? I don't know, possibly tied with my laptop, which is also a really poor hovercraft. lol
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Post by fallen on Aug 28, 2016 21:09:16 GMT -5
Should I bring up that Cory Trese has gone on record in 2011 saying ST4X will be a Master of Orion clone? Lol, I am sure all you can get on record is that Cory said that ST RPG is not 4X. Second, if you follow the logic of Cory's statement: "When I try to make a Masters of Orion clone, you will know because it will be a 4X game" ... When I make A, it will be B ... does not mean When I make C, it is B. ST 4X != Master of Orion clone. Also, maybe best quote ever: Heck yes my truck is a terrible hovercraft. Worst hovercraft ever? I don't know, possibly tied with my laptop, which is also a really poor hovercraft.
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Post by resistor on Aug 28, 2016 22:05:11 GMT -5
Lol, I am sure all you can get on record is that Cory said that ST RPG is not 4X. Second, if you follow the logic of Cory's statement: "When I try to make a Masters of Orion clone, you will know because it will be a 4X game" ... When I make A, it will be B ... does not mean When I make C, it is B. ST 4X != Master of Orion clone. I don't know what C means. ST4X is a 4X game, so in that logic it should be an A, right? I know ST4X is not a MOO clone, I just thought it'd be funny to look at Cory's old post that seems to state otherwise.
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Post by fallen on Aug 28, 2016 23:46:30 GMT -5
resistor - agreed, the post was hilarious for sure. To logic it out ... "When I make A (a MOO clone), it will be B (a 4X game)" does not mean that "When I make C (ST 4X), it will be A (a MOO clone)" Cory simply said, if he tried to make MOO clone (which we have never done) it would be a 4X game, not an RPG game like ST RPG. And so, the hilarity around laptops, trucks and hoverboards Great zombie quote, loved it.
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Post by bookworm21 on Aug 29, 2016 2:05:30 GMT -5
That Hovercraft/truck thing 😂😂😂
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Aug 29, 2016 7:37:13 GMT -5
The point of the thread was simple. I saw they have redone MOO, figured y'all might like to know since I have seen others mention it. It was not to start an argument over what Cory has said or done. Lol
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Post by fallen on Aug 29, 2016 9:10:44 GMT -5
The point of the thread was simple. I saw they have redone MOO, figured y'all might like to know since I have seen others mention it. It was not to start an argument over what Cory has said or done. Lol Sorry, we just got off track laughing about amazing Cory Trese quotes Hope you're enjoying the re-releases!
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Aug 29, 2016 11:22:01 GMT -5
It is a good quote, I'll give you that. I quite am enjoying the first one. Second one was terrible imo. Third is a steeper curve like TB games.
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Post by fallen on Aug 29, 2016 12:10:21 GMT -5
It is a good quote, I'll give you that. I quite am enjoying the first one. Second one was terrible imo. Third is a steeper curve like TB games. Might edit the first post and include a link to the Steam page or publisher?
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Aug 29, 2016 13:43:36 GMT -5
Not even worth discussing anymore, they nerfed it. No "creative" trait for psilon race. Used to be able to fly to any system within ships range, now uses warp points making it more like a risk game vs a true 4x. Not as bad as they nerfed MOO3, but not impressed as a whole.
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Aug 29, 2016 13:44:48 GMT -5
Back to ST4X and/or finding a decent mod or clone.
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