Rebalance rep negotiate and more non lethals and females

[glowkitten]

I think rep tends to drop a little too fast. If i jump to one hotel, stay 24 hours, then safehouse 24 hours, i come back and it's nearly a 10 point drop. So 2 days and poof 3 runs worth of rep gone or more.
I think rep should stick around a little longer. Maybe a week before it drops at all. This quick dropping rep makes me wonder how to make it as a flatline user when you have to drop your heat.
Oohh also a fame indicator for reverse heat where if you build it up around your zone then your own faction will stop attacking you in your home zone. If encounters are desired, then they should be from an outside faction wandering into the territory.

Negotiate.
Negotiating for increased cash should result in less rep for the job being done. It should be a choice of what to prioritize for the player money or fame.
It would be nice to get some new non-lethals. Maybe some one shot per reload acoustic sniper rifles with some range to them or some rubber bullet tommy guns. This would let players play their style lethal or non lethal.
Also does gunslinger with two non-lethals kill? I noticed i do mp damage until i use doubleshot.
Could it be possible to click a corner of the char profile for char selection instead of the entire thing? When i get a team, the menu to access my player becomes very annoying and hangs its panels out over my screen. I want the profile button to work like default action while running solo to check my xp and stats but that menu trips me up. Make a small square in the corner that pulls the char selection menu and the rest of the square be default behavior for solo action would fix my woes.
Can you make a hunder female char? I don't like playing with boy chars but i bought the hunder pack. Maybe drone controller can be female? Also more chick bad guys (there are none.) More bad guy variation within factions would be rad. Maybe some special ultra rare encounters (like fallout 2 did) would be awesome.
Being able to switch chars for event screens may be handy. My hacker could hack a broken drone, but he is anti-social and has no grace for public speaking while my face could negotiation. I can switch back and forth if i know the event is coming, but it has to be pre-emptive.
I'm having a blast with elite. Restarting lots of times to get the right squad together and try all the professions to find my style. Probably thinking face is the most useful for my main char non-combative style with permanent runners for backup.

[fallen]

glowkitten - thanks for the awesome list of suggestions! We'll filter those which we might be able to add on to the CK1 roadmap and the rest into consideration for CK2. With a game already 4 years old, there are some areas where we are simply locked in and the cost to change is too great for the old platform.

The Drone Master is to be female.

The Encounter events auto-select the best character for the skill/attribute save you choose. So, if you have a Electronics-skilled hacker, it doesn't matter who is walking around the NBZ, he/she will step forward to make any saves at which he/she has the best stats.

[glowkitten]

That is awesome about the best char being the one to attempt something. I was wondering about that :-)
I know what you mean about being boxed in with code. It's better to modernize the entire project sometimes.
I ask that you keep some parts of ck2 not too flashy to keep it as a game for those who love game mechanics more than tons of cutscenes and dialog that never quits (see any final fantasy after 7 for neverending dialog examples lol.)
Oh and i do appreciate at least having female lead options at all. May be why i got a good vibe from the game right away.
Im curious what language you are using for these projects? Java? Python? C#?

[fallen]

glowkitten - Cyber Knights and the other games in its generation are in Java. Heroes of Steel and its generation are in C++.

[grävling]

Also how much rep you drop is a function of how much rep you have, and what faction is involved. Corps have a long memory, rep drops slower there, as they remember what you did for them even weeks ago. Gangers have minds like mayflies ... they are very quick to forget you. The security companies are in the middle on this. And all rep tends to 0, and the closer you are to 0, the stronger the jump towards 0 will be. So you need to crank your rep up a good bit more if you want it to stick. It's nearly impossible, on brutal, to get rep-sticking with a 1 or even 2 job computer, though the new ability to stick a safehouse luxury pad or 2 in ganger-land has effected this a whole lot, so it may be a lot easier to do. When rep-building, stay at expensive hotels (or luxury pads in your safehouse), so that you don't need to sleep as often.

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How come there aren't more female runners? I would think in the NBZ of the year 22 something, that gender roles wouldn't be a big issue anymore. I would expect there would be a variety of genders able to be gunslingers and hackers, agent x's and some female faces.

[grävling]

Mar 5, 2015 7:05:45 GMT -5 Chance said:

How come there aren't more female runners? I would think in the NBZ of the year 22 something, that gender roles wouldn't be a big issue anymore. I would expect there would be a variety of genders able to be gunslingers and hackers, agent x's and some female faces.

One reason is because when this game was new, fallen (who has done all of the art) was a whole lot better at drawing men than women. It's one of the things he's learned over the past 3 years ...

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I guess that makes sense, but alot of the marks that are escorted across the NBZ are women so the artwork works okay. Doesn't matter I guess, just thinking.

[grävling]

Mar 5, 2015 8:26:15 GMT -5 Chance said:

I guess that makes sense, but alot of the marks that are escorted across the NBZ are women so the artwork works okay. Doesn't matter I guess, just thinking.

They came later .... and don't have to be animated for punching and shooting. If you go back and read the comments when Female II (Kyera)
came out you will find a lot of 'her arms are too short (or her legs are too long), her legs are too fat, etc ...'

[fallen]

Etc etc Old art can be hard to look at.

At this point, all additional Runners are slotted to be female until the balance is restored. But adding additional runners is way down the priority list atm.

[ntsheep]

Somewhere are pictures of Narvidians in fishnet stockings.

[Officer Genious]

Wasn't there a pic of YOU in fishnets slayernz found??

[ntsheep]

[glowkitten]

Mar 5, 2015 1:18:05 GMT -5 grävling said:

Also how much rep you drop is a function of how much rep you have, and what faction is involved. Corps have a long memory, rep drops slower there, as they remember what you did for them even weeks ago. Gangers have minds like mayflies ... they are very quick to forget you. The security companies are in the middle on this. And all rep tends to 0, and the closer you are to 0, the stronger the jump towards 0 will be. So you need to crank your rep up a good bit more if you want it to stick. It's nearly impossible, on brutal, to get rep-sticking with a 1 or even 2 job computer, though the new ability to stick a safehouse luxury pad or 2 in ganger-land has effected this a whole lot, so it may be a lot easier to do. When rep-building, stay at expensive hotels (or luxury pads in your safehouse), so that you don't need to sleep as often.

Yeah,  I think this is what it was. It was the Fennigan. I remember it seemed lots slower when I was working for mars, but that would be why.

( fallen ) Also the Female #3 runner is my fav for artwork. I thought the art was many magnitudes better than the slightly similar genesis game. If I remember correctly, all the females were pretty ugly in the genesis version. The redhead and the purple haired char are quite cute, as is the first female you talk to in the made not born via the videophone. Lots more in there too via backrooms. If there was a weakness for female artwork, I didn't notice it at all, and I am an art snob.

Might I also suggest hair color choices. To be able to use an artwork you like with different chars when playing multiple accounts. You can separate the two by color and kinda make the same art useful for many many char tiles. I think this would apply to guys too. Everyone likes being able to cyber punk out their chars and I envision lots of colors in the future for hair. Maybe for Ck 2 hehe. (Imagine a sniper with light blue hair named ICEMAN! hehe) Random code could be implemented to change hair color of bad guys too to separate who each char is attacking when you are getting swarmed and you put the game down a sec to take a phone call and are not lost. We tend to remember colors much better than positions relative to our chars for baddies

[glowkitten]

Mar 5, 2015 13:07:15 GMT -5 ntsheep said:

I don't think ewe have to resort to taking such sheep shots at one another....
Wool you please give me a little respect. Sheepsh!