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Post by contributor on Mar 25, 2016 16:19:17 GMT -5
Ok, just got to vent somewhere. The Shield Bearer in the Cortias fight is a sick joke. All the other shades are dead and I've regeared all of my heroes with all of the +accuracy gear I can and they can't hit him. I go whole turns without hitting and then he goes 4 in row healing himself for 412hp. He's absolutely not a danger to the team, but it's just stupid. I'm going to run out of incantations of sustainment before I ever kill him. Up to this point my team has been just fine on accuracy. They miss some, especially on some of the dodgier mobs, but now they're missing 90% of the time. I don't think I've ever quit a boss fight out of boredom before.
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Post by matrim on Mar 25, 2016 16:26:30 GMT -5
Are you all melee? He has crazy parry but his ranged defense is pretty low. Make sure he has every curse you can stack on him.
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Post by Rashar on Mar 25, 2016 16:44:58 GMT -5
Wait till you meet the episode 4 shamans and ugo shamans ^^
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Post by Kanly on Mar 25, 2016 17:54:09 GMT -5
Yeah, he's a tough sob. Obvious question, but you do have him full of ap curses right?
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 25, 2016 18:03:16 GMT -5
Ok, just got to vent somewhere. The Shield Bearer in the Cortias fight is a sick joke. All the other shades are dead and I've regeared all of my heroes with all of the +accuracy gear I can and they can't hit him. I go whole turns without hitting and then he goes 4 in row healing himself for 412hp. He's absolutely not a danger to the team, but it's just stupid. I'm going to run out of incantations of sustainment before I ever kill him. Up to this point my team has been just fine on accuracy. They miss some, especially on some of the dodgier mobs, but now they're missing 90% of the time. I don't think I've ever quit a boss fight out of boredom before. Awww bummer. Sorry it wasn't a fun fight for you. I don't actually remember him being that hard on my last NMI game, but maybe I got lucky? His numbers seem pretty in-line with the game's mechanics, but I'll ask fallen to take an expert look at him. I'll make sure we follow up on this thread. |
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Post by contributor on Mar 25, 2016 18:07:26 GMT -5
Yeah I had all my curses on him, believe me I was doing everything. Like I said it wasn't his attacks that were the problem it was his dodge and his constant healing. And yes I've face some of the those shamanesses and he was way way worse. I actually think he must have had majorly high dodge, because I only ever hit him once with ranged attacks. The only ones I have are Firestorm 10 and Banishment 10 but I had three curses
(Choking Ash 10, Ethereal Anguish 7 and Punishing Blades 5) on him that hurt his dodge and they didn't seem to have much of an effect. That one guy probably soaked more spirit than the biggest fights in the game so far. The other 7 took one incantation of Sustainment. He took 3 more for both of my melee heroes. I quit using them on my ranged people because they were basically just standing around watching anyways. I don't know if these guys attributes are rolled or what, but maybe he was some crazy anomaly because I don't see anyone else having this trouble.
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 25, 2016 18:09:07 GMT -5
Attributes are fixed, not rolled. If your level and difficulty were the same, you'd see the exact same attributes across multiple games and devices.
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Post by matrim on Mar 26, 2016 0:40:23 GMT -5
I'm curious, what is the score to beat on your NMI team Cory Trese? |
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Post by tran on Mar 26, 2016 4:02:10 GMT -5
Hey fallen, I recall that you said the Weaver fight would be tweaked so that it could be harder, that is still a thing right?
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 10:09:22 GMT -5
Ok, just got to vent somewhere. The Shield Bearer in the Cortias fight is a sick joke. All the other shades are dead and I've regeared all of my heroes with all of the +accuracy gear I can and they can't hit him. I go whole turns without hitting and then he goes 4 in row healing himself for 412hp. He's absolutely not a danger to the team, but it's just stupid. I'm going to run out of incantations of sustainment before I ever kill him. Up to this point my team has been just fine on accuracy. They miss some, especially on some of the dodgier mobs, but now they're missing 90% of the time. I don't think I've ever quit a boss fight out of boredom before. That's really odd. I wonder what is up. You're the first player who has mentioned it and I found all of my groups had no problem hitting him. It's very strange, I've talked to more than 20 players by email about this fight and how it has kicked their butt, but it has never been about the shield bearer. 0% mentions. Can you list your difficulty and level? |
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 10:11:33 GMT -5
Hey fallen, I recall that you said the Weaver fight would be tweaked so that it could be harder, that is still a thing right? It's on a long list that now has 614 items on it. |
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Post by Rashar on Mar 26, 2016 10:31:55 GMT -5
Both of the two shield wearers can be a pain to hit for melee users, they seem to have a huge parry pool and a low dodge pool, even with -7 parry and -22 dodge my Vraes missed more then 50% of his attacks on them. However the ranged attacks of Kjartan and Tamilin had no problem finding target. I had a rank 10 choking ash, rank 6 etheral anguish and rank 10 torrent of steel active on them, so I concluded they must have huge parry bonuses. It also depends a bit on when you went to fight Cortias, if you happened to do stuff regarding locating Revanna(or w/e her name is) 1st, then you are loaded with top tier magical items of which items that offer +8 accuracy +12 damage(boots) or +12 accuracy and 4% crit(amulet). I did Cortias as soon as I could and noticed the same thing as contributor. |
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 10:36:36 GMT -5
Both of the two shield wearers can be a pain to hit for melee users, they seem to have a huge parry pool and a low dodge pool, even with -7 parry and -22 dodge my Vraes missed more then 50% of his attacks on them. However the ranged attacks of Kjartan and Tamilin had no problem finding target. I had a rank 10 choking ash, rank 6 etheral anguish and rank 10 torrent of steel active on them, so I concluded they must have huge parry bonuses. It also depends a bit on when you went to fight Cortias, if you happened to do stuff regarding locating Revanna(or w/e her name is) 1st, then you are loaded with top tier magical items of which items that offer +8 accuracy +12 damage(boots) or +12 accuracy and 4% crit(amulet). I did Cortias as soon as I could and noticed the same thing as contributor. Can you report your difficulty and level? I can't really look at the facts without those facts  |
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Post by Rashar on Mar 26, 2016 10:55:59 GMT -5
Well I still play on easy difficulty. (think at that time my Vraes was 47 and other heroes 45) I did not have the exact same problems as contributor , the total fight lasted less then 19 rounds but probably thanks to my ranged. But the 1st 6 images died in 6 rounds and then I noticed that Vraes was missing a lot, so much that he was going to be out of SP for the 1st time since he obtained the heartbeat of summer, so I switched my rank 3 ferocity to rank 1 savage sweep. And it took like me like 10 rounds orso to make sure the guys with shield went down, because as the fight ended I got the message that there are only 3 turns left on deadly intuition. (This includes Tamilin hitting both of the shielded guys with her ToS otherwise the fight would have lasted longer) Now for me personally this fight was not boring, and a 16 round fight seems fine aswell for me, but the guys with shields parrying a lot is something I noticed. |
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Post by contributor on Mar 26, 2016 14:10:54 GMT -5
I was playing on Nightmare. Team started the fight at 45 and everyone went up to 46 during the fight. It was the shield bearer with the spear and he was markedly different than the bearer with the sword, who went down much easier. I'm pretty sure his Max health was 2610 because I saw that a lot. That should let you calculate his level.
I don't know what to say about the fact that my experience was so different. If you don't hear from others, don't spend too much time on it. It is possible that I just had the longest, most improbable set of bad rolls ever. Honestly I just needed to vent. I like the game and I'm far, far from a disgruntled customer, which I hope you've figured out by now.
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