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1m cherry
Mar 8, 2016 11:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Mar 8, 2016 11:31:10 GMT -5
Finally broke my 1m cherry as a Merchant. I have TP with every faction and a rank 1 military with all as well. That being said, is it worth going past 20 in negotiation?
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Post by fallen on Mar 8, 2016 11:36:13 GMT -5
Finally broke my 1m cherry as a Merchant. I have TP with every faction and a rank 1 military with all as well. That being said, is it worth going past 20 in negotiation? Congrats! |
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Post by slayernz on Mar 8, 2016 23:10:53 GMT -5
Fourth Horseman congrats! Was that in a single trade or was is your bank balance after your trade? You don't necessarily need to go past level 20 in negotiation - for me, it would be more beneficial to you investing in Pilot/Tactics once you got negotiation up to 20. Then again, I haven't done the merchant captain yet. I rely heavily on shortage rumors and large stockpiles of cached goods instead of high negotiation skill 
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 8, 2016 23:23:05 GMT -5
Negotiation scales the same as Tactics and Pilot. If you're trading enough, higher skill will always benefit.
However, Pilot and Tactics will help you avoid encounters when you have a full Cargo Hold, so keeping that in mind ... up to you =)
20 isn't a magical limit.
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Post by slayernz on Mar 8, 2016 23:36:26 GMT -5
You can be too effective at negotiation - it's still a law of diminishing returns because you'll never get a situation where people will pay you more to buy something than they will to sell. Once you get a buy rate of 401 and a sell rate of 400, you're gonna struggle getting much more benefit right? Yes, you can shorten timeframes for large sell/buy activities ... and no, 20 is an arbitrary value, and is not a magical point at which equations change dramatically |
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1m cherry
Mar 9, 2016 4:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by Fourth Horseman on Mar 9, 2016 4:49:26 GMT -5
All I'm doing is trading. I have a TP with everyone so I just pay attention to embargoes and spy wars. I mainly stay up on the NW quadrant to avoid any xeno and if I there I won't carry artifacts. Currently my pilot is double my level and I still use a fast/quick ship (Honor of Thulun) in case I come across an Indy pirate.
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Post by slayernz on Mar 9, 2016 16:55:42 GMT -5
With the Honor of Thulun, specced with additional cargo hold, wf tank, etc, you should be able to get comfortable results with a shortage. A full cargo of metal in a shortage should get you over 100k. A full load of artifacts in shortage could get you as much as 200k or more With a bigger ship, more storage capacity, and an ability to react quickly with cached stock, you can sometimes get close to $1m in a single trade. Possible? Yeah, with a cargo hold of 216, carrying full Artifacts, and selling around $4,600, you'll be pretty much there! Check out the Devaltos Flag Ship for a great hauler. Alternatively, with the right unlocks, you can get a designer ship to spec pretty easily. One thing that I noticed (not sure if it's changed)... if you apply the 20% cargo upgrade, do it after you've upgraded all of the other cargo upgrade slots. From what I remember, the 20% upgrade occurs with your current cargo hold size. Any additional cargo hold upgrades just add that exact amount (eg +8 cargo adds +8 only). |
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Vraesrial
Exemplar
The absolute God of Hyperdeath, an outlander, and the bad pun king.
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Post by Vraesrial on Mar 9, 2016 17:49:09 GMT -5
Good work, my fellow Thulun! Show everyone why we rule the clans!
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 12, 2016 16:38:33 GMT -5
Should we make an Award for 1m credits?
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Post by slayernz on Mar 12, 2016 19:05:20 GMT -5
Are we talking about an award for a single transaction? In that case I think that $500k in a single action is enough of a challenge (and requires a purposeful selection of ship, cargo, and the like). 1M is a little excessive. Then again, you did make a challenge of 350 freaking contracts, which to be honest, was a painful grind You also had 1117 battles, which was also long in achieving. Why 1117 BTW? So ... $100k in a single transaction, $250k in a single transaction, and $500k in a single transaction. That should be achievable with effort |
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 12, 2016 20:48:31 GMT -5
There is a legend that Shalun boarded a Guild Battlestation, alone, at peak of the Hokaat Engagement and defeated a crew of 1117.
Thus the number takes on a legendary meaning in the "Fist of Shalun"
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1m cherry
Mar 17, 2016 15:49:34 GMT -5
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Post by bookworm21 on Mar 17, 2016 15:49:34 GMT -5
There is a legend that Shalun boarded a Guild Battlestation, alone, at peak of the Hokaat Engagement and defeated a crew of 1117. Thus the number takes on a legendary meaning in the "Fist of Shalun" lore pdf... anticipation builds |
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 18, 2016 13:49:07 GMT -5
Yeah, we've got some exciting days ahead of us for the Lore PDF =)
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