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Post by Vae Victus on Apr 18, 2016 0:37:46 GMT -5
PC
Normal Difficulty:
On Tunnel Complex
I have used a Soldier Templar to throw a Concuss Grenade 2 grenade at two different Goliaths on this map (on separate occasions)... nothing happened. No damage, no explosion. Maybe I missed, but this happened twice and I did not receive any feedback from the game so I suspect it is not working as intended.
loadout:
Armored Gauntlet
Battalion Rifle
Leviathan Armor
N-Jacket
Bullseye
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Post by fallen on Apr 18, 2016 10:00:07 GMT -5
PC Normal Difficulty: On Tunnel Complex I have used a Soldier Templar to throw a Concuss Grenade 2 grenade at two different Goliaths on this map (on separate occasions)... nothing happened. No damage, no explosion. Maybe I missed, but this happened twice and I did not receive any feedback from the game so I suspect it is not working as intended. loadout: Armored Gauntlet Battalion Rifle Leviathan Armor N-Jacket Bullseye It does sound like two solid misses. I've taken a note to see if we can improve the UI, but in the case that you get 100% misses on the attack, the grenade is considered a dud and does not explode. |
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Post by Vae Victus on Apr 18, 2016 12:10:29 GMT -5
Should throwing the grenade have displayed a "0", though, when it missed?
When firing a gun, I think the game displays a "0" damage on a miss? It might be a good idea for a miss on a grenade to communicate the same information?
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Post by Cory Trese on Apr 18, 2016 13:08:08 GMT -5
No, it does not display "0" when you miss. It displays "0" when all of the damage is soaked.
Miss has a special animation and lack of hit sound effect, but we can work on improving this.
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Post by Vae Victus on Apr 18, 2016 21:58:13 GMT -5
>>No, it does not display "0" when you miss. It displays "0" when all of the damage is soaked.
Thank you for educating me about that distinction! That is helpful to know!
>>Miss has a special animation and lack of hit sound effect, but we can work on improving this.
-I play with sound off, so I did not notice the sound cue. oops.
-I did not notice a special animation in this circumstance...but then again, I usually play really far zoomed out, so I barely see any of the animations... I admire the detail when I zoom in, but playing far zoomed out is my preference...I only occasionally zoom in.
-Maybe a miss could have a display of "0" like when damage is soaked? Or, if you want to distinguish between the two situations (which would be a helpful distinction), it could display the word "Miss" (although, you may consider that as breaking immersion).
-To act as a reality check on me... for those more able to recall how other games handle the situation- how does XCom or Xenonauts, or Halfway, or other squad-based concept games handle a miss? What is the "gold" standard for communication of this type of information in the genre?
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Post by fallen on Apr 18, 2016 22:08:07 GMT -5
Vae Victus - to be clear, there are three types of display: - An attack is made and no text appears on screen. This indicates a Miss. - An attack is made and a -0 appears on screen. This indicates a Hit, but all Damage was soaked. But you did hit. - Attack is made and -Xp (where p is optional) appears on screen. This indicates a Hit with Damage above soak. These three distinctions are in place so that you can tell the result of an attack without looking at the animation at any zoom level. I hope that helps!
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