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Post by Vae Victus on Jun 10, 2016 0:17:55 GMT -5
2.2.5
Hard Difficulty
Factory core:South
I had full MP with a scout and used Grapple I to hit an enemy- this used up ALL of my MP; thankfully only 1AP. Was it supposed to use up all the MP? If I had fired a weapon, it would not have used up all the MP, it would have just used the required equivalent of the MP.
If this is not a bug, could the right click tooltip over the action indicate that this ends the turn, just like Overwatch ends a turn? That said, if it is not a bug, I do not understand why melee ends a turn unlike shooting? If I can shoot and run, I can surely punch and run?
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Post by fallen on Jun 10, 2016 1:00:25 GMT -5
Vae Victus - grappling with a leviathan mech requires setting of the feet in a combat stance and swinging of the full mech. It ends all movement for the turn. Look for the small icon with foosteps and an X where-ever you see this type of Talent.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 10, 2016 10:01:29 GMT -5
You'll actually notice that many Talents are decorated with the tooltip that indicates end of moves.
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Post by bookworm21 on Jun 10, 2016 20:16:30 GMT -5
If I can shoot and run, I can surely punch and run? I always just assumed they were locked in a xeno wrestling bout and as such would be locking the feet into the ground to improve stability. A bit like a full-auto Neptune I guess |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 11, 2016 8:53:56 GMT -5
If I can shoot and run, I can surely punch and run? I always just assumed they were locked in a xeno wrestling bout and as such would be locking the feet into the ground to improve stability. A bit like a full-auto Neptune I guess Exactly! <3 |
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Post by Vae Victus on Jun 11, 2016 21:51:39 GMT -5
Vae Victus - grappling with a leviathan mech requires setting of the feet in a combat stance and swinging of the full mech. It ends all movement for the turn. Look for the small icon with foosteps and an X where-ever you see this type of Talent. Thank you-it is helpful to know that icon indicates "end turn" after an attack(!) I was expecting the tooltip to be in the right click for the action rather than on the far right, like "Melee Attack: Ends Turn" rather than to have the information present in a different part of the screen. Also, and this may just be personal preference, but I did not realize that those images in the icon were footsteps--I thought they were bullets with an X indicating this was a melee attack. Maybe those icons could have a mouseover tooltip? Without going into the library and looking at what the icons indicate, I could not discern what they meant. |
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Post by fallen on Jun 11, 2016 21:58:51 GMT -5
Vae Victus - thanks for the feedback, we will see if we can improve the iconography. It is on our list to add a textual explanation of the rules to the Talent detail pane, but low priority atm. Notably, it does not end your turn, only sets your MP to 0.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 12, 2016 18:14:09 GMT -5
And has no effect on MP banked by buffs that have -MP bonuses.
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Post by Vae Victus on Jun 14, 2016 22:19:27 GMT -5
And has no effect on MP banked by buffs that have -MP bonuses. Sorry, I do not understand that? |
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Post by fallen on Jun 15, 2016 9:14:38 GMT -5
Vae Victus - anything that causes -MP increases your Heat reduction for the turn (Buffs, Heavy Armor, etc). Using Grapple (which sets your MP to 0) does not negate the bonuses you get for -MP. Fixed thread title, moved thread to discussion board instead of bug.
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