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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 16:00:15 GMT -5
I sold a bunch of items in the Ember Lake shop and there was no impact to my score. Is there an intended limit to score increase based on gold? Score: 1,597,231,335 Gold: 597,874 I haven't bought anything as an attempt to maximize score and attempt to catch the top Leaderboard score that benefitted from pre-nerf item prices. Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Game version 4.2.43 Thanks
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Post by fallen on Jul 26, 2016 19:54:28 GMT -5
Zhivago - gold bonus is limited to 500,000 gp.
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 20:02:38 GMT -5
Zhivago - gold bonus is limited to 500,000 gp. That's a bummer. What was behind that decision? If gold amount is calculated in the score, then wouldn't the most efficient groups collect the most gold? Since it appears to be an intended feature and not a bug, this may not be the appropriate venue to discuss. It's just disappointing since I literally purchased nothing.
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Post by fallen on Jul 26, 2016 20:17:16 GMT -5
Zhivago - sorry, we can try to make that more clear. It is a feature to help ensure that changes to prices in the game (such as the item nerf) will not massively effect the ladders. Your score bonus from 500,000 gp is immense, but once you reach that point, the best thing to do for your score is focus on other efficiencies and do your best to maintain that massive stockpile. You've got 97,000 gp to burn, which at the point in the game you are at could disappear in a few purchases.
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 20:38:04 GMT -5
fallen now that I know I'll modify my approach. I've needlessly made this run really hard on myself stockpiling items to sell at end of content in order to maximize score! I still think that it should be uncapped in the future because teams' ability to stockpile equipment/consumables through efficient and skilled play should be fully rewarded. My Kincaid is still using a 1ap Scything Blade lol
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 26, 2016 21:03:00 GMT -5
Correct. The 500K limit was developed based on analysis of high skill games. Maximize your efficiency by aiming to purchase gear as quickly as possible to level up while obtaining maximum profit aiming for around 500K at end game.
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 21:07:50 GMT -5
Correct. The 500K limit was developed based on analysis of high skill games. Maximize your efficiency by aiming to purchase gear as quickly as possible to level up while obtaining maximum profit aiming for around 500K at end game. In that case, I think I've fairly definitively demonstrated that the cap is too low. I could have purchased whatever I wanted up to this point and I'd still hit the cap.
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Post by fallen on Jul 26, 2016 21:11:04 GMT -5
Correct. The 500K limit was developed based on analysis of high skill games. Maximize your efficiency by aiming to purchase gear as quickly as possible to level up while obtaining maximum profit aiming for around 500K at end game. In that case, I think I've fairly definitively demonstrated that the cap is too low. I could have purchased whatever I wanted up to this point and I'd still hit the cap. What point are you at in the game? E2?
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 21:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by fallen on Jul 26, 2016 21:15:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! As part of the reasoning behind setting the limit was to keep ladder scores on the same playing field across changes to the game, we won't be removing the limit. Certainly something we'll consider doing different for Legends of Steel!
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 21:31:06 GMT -5
fallen I completely accept your stated reasoning and respect that it won't be changed for HoS. I'm simply pointing out that I've demonstrated that I could have purchased the best supplemental items for my team up to this point and still been comfortably ahead of the cap.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 26, 2016 21:33:31 GMT -5
fallen I completely accept your stated reasoning and respect that it won't be changed for HoS. I'm simply pointing out that I've demonstrated that I could have purchased the best supplemental items for my team up to this point and still been comfortably ahead of the cap. Sweet. What difficulty? This is for Ironman? Can you send your saved game file for analysis?
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 26, 2016 21:42:40 GMT -5
Absolutely! Nightmare Ironman, yes. How do I send you my save file? I'm not super tech savvy
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 27, 2016 9:38:28 GMT -5
If you're playing on PC, just grab the game_X.db file and send it to me via e-mail at cory.trese@gmail.com
Sorry for the trouble with the scoring system, we will try to do better next game.
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Post by Zhivago on Jul 27, 2016 10:13:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm playing on my phone. No apologies necessary at all guys. You've made an incredible game. Any feedback I can offer to help you potentially improve it is my pleasure. Cheers
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