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Post by wascalwywabbit on Dec 30, 2016 15:51:11 GMT -5
ha ha, much like today. There are many people who believe in magic or magic-like things. Under one definition of magic falls everything not perfectly understood. Agnostics admit they don't know rather than cling to an unconfirmed explanation. Scientists go a step further by, as strictly as their measurements and models allow, defining how well each thing is understood, thereby creating a slightly fuzzy, but mostly well defined boundary, of the well known vs conjecture... The unknown unknowns without a clear definition will however remain a source of something that seems magical, given enough time for its influence to be felt, but not so much time as to be understood; at the end of which the sense of magic can wane but a power of command gained.  I guess I'm saying knowledge is power and mystery is magic, and as Arthur C Clarke pointed out, one can appear as the other given a significant difference in knowledge/technology. |
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Post by tenbsmith on Dec 31, 2016 9:39:31 GMT -5
that's pretty philosophical for a rabbit, even a wascaly one. :-)
I definitely agree that there are many things we don't understand. And, that leaves room for spiritual and paranormal phenomena to live along science.
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Post by amongstshadows on Jan 3, 2017 3:51:05 GMT -5
You could say that magic and science are one in the same. In those fantasy worlds where humans launch fireballs out of their hands could be explained as biology. For they are not us, but something else entirely. All things are possible. Humans just have to much energy being wired to other systems to have something as cool as electricity firing out of our fingertips
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Post by fallen on Jan 3, 2017 11:41:10 GMT -5
You could say that magic and science are one in the same. In those fantasy worlds where humans launch fireballs out of their hands could be explained as biology. For they are not us, but something else entirely. All things are possible. Humans just have to much energy being wired to other systems to have something as cool as electricity firing out of our fingertips Except that evolution might need a few million generations to change our biology to do that. |
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Post by tenbsmith on Jan 4, 2017 9:25:19 GMT -5
For me, science living alongside paranormal and spiritual phenomena, has to do with the many things science has and and will not be able to explain. Science is unlikely to ever provide a definitive answer about the existence of an afterlife or what form it might take.
Science is imperfect, and cannot explain everything. I'm not sure that we will ever develop an AI capable of passing a sustained Turing Test or developing it's own consciences. I'm not sure we'll ever perfectly understand all biological processes. The complexity of nature may be to vast for us to fully explain and understand.
Given the complexity of nature there may be aspects of it not accounted for by current science. Maybe there are human abilities not yet understood, call it intuition or clairvoyance, these things or something like them may exist. However, I doubt humans will ever be evolve to throw fireballs, to me that is outside current scientific understandinge, though not impossible a few million years from now.
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Post by amongstshadows on Jan 4, 2017 21:46:21 GMT -5
You could say that magic and science are one in the same. In those fantasy worlds where humans launch fireballs out of their hands could be explained as biology. For they are not us, but something else entirely. All things are possible. Humans just have to much energy being wired to other systems to have something as cool as electricity firing out of our fingertips Except that evolution might need a few million generations to change our biology to do that. We wouldn't be humans if our biology changed that much. I fear we are stuck with powerful brains, but mediocre bodies lol |
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