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Feb 10, 2017 15:35:31 GMT -5
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Post by stratego on Feb 10, 2017 15:35:31 GMT -5
My first computer was a Tandy Coco 3. The OS was on a rom chip. As soon as you turned it on, it was ready to go. People today get all excited about SSD drives and having a PC boot in just a few seconds. That's still not as fast as what a Tandy, or others like it could do back in the day. Some of the so called new ideas are really old ones. MS dos, Win 98SE, and Win XP are the three times MS got it right. Win 7 is pretty good. The only way I'll go to Win 10 is when I buy a new computer, and the first thing I'll do is set up a dual boot with a version of Linux. Win 10 may even be the version that makes me go full Linux. I've been steadily losing faith in MS for a little over 7 years. Win XP still is the best os from MS, well if you know some basic programming you should get archLinux and WINe |
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Feb 10, 2017 15:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by stratego on Feb 10, 2017 15:38:12 GMT -5
The 2 problems with Win10 for me is the forced feature updates and reboots (not just security and bug fixes upon USER restart) and them going full Google on data collection... If you can figure out how to get around those 2 things, 10 is a nice update to the lousy 8-8.1 ui, well lousy outside of touch screens. 1)google collects your browsing data not pc usage data, that goes to Microsoft. 2)apple does the same thing, just apple users are mostly stupid enough to not know about that. 3)if you want minimal shadowing only thing you can use is LINUX |
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Post by poryg on Feb 10, 2017 16:56:13 GMT -5
or DOS.. Or the best, no internet connection  Win xp is great, however it doesn't support 64bit processors... And it doesn't support multi core cpus  Dual core at max, with the latest service pack. But where do you want to find that today... |
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Feb 10, 2017 17:27:19 GMT -5
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Post by stratego on Feb 10, 2017 17:27:19 GMT -5
or DOS.. Or the best, no internet connection Win xp is great, however it doesn't support 64bit processors... And it doesn't support multi core cpus Dual core at max, with the latest service pack. But where do you want to find that today... Well there is a custom made service pack which gives xp vista and some 7 functionality including multi core processing |
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Post by ntsheep on Feb 10, 2017 18:10:47 GMT -5
stratego if I could only have one MS OS it would be XP.
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Post by poryg on Feb 11, 2017 3:09:47 GMT -5
The 64bit cpu thing is still more and more of a deal though With passing time there won't be any more 64bit cpus, which would still force you to upgrade sooner or later, because there is no such thing as a 64bit win xp. |
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Post by stratego on Feb 11, 2017 3:10:25 GMT -5
stratego if I could only have one MS OS it would be XP. I use it on my PC, with dual booted archLinux |
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Post by stratego on Feb 11, 2017 3:11:33 GMT -5
The 64bit cpu thing is still more and more of a deal though With passing time there won't be any more 64bit cpus, which would still force you to upgrade sooner or later, because there is no such thing as a 64bit win xp. Well I bet it is possible to make kernel for that, but it would take some time to make one |
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Post by poryg on Feb 11, 2017 3:13:47 GMT -5
I am not skilled in programming, so I don't know... Which is kind of a bummer |
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Post by grävling on Feb 11, 2017 3:24:44 GMT -5
No 64-bit win xp? What's this then? |
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Feb 11, 2017 3:53:58 GMT -5
No 64-bit win xp? What's this then? Yeah, but that's for Itanium processors not x86 64bit extensions developed by AMD which Intel later took on cause Itanium was a commercial flop... |
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Feb 11, 2017 4:02:04 GMT -5
The 64bit cpu thing is still more and more of a deal though With passing time there won't be any more 64bit cpus, which would still force you to upgrade sooner or later, because there is no such thing as a 64bit win xp. All Major x86 cpus still run native 32 bit code, but you may lose out on the 64bit memory address space and larger registers... The larger register space can be somewhat overcome by register renaming and fast caches, but both those are hardware based solutions particular to a specific processor implementation. The memory address space can be somewhat handled by more advanced accesss modes developed for massive memory systems between the two eras, 32 and 64bit iirc. edit: Of course any application requiring 64bit [integer] code will not work on a 32bit OS without 'special' support, kinda how 32bit DOS games were common before Win95/98 etc. edit 2: VMs tend to be the way to handle legacy stuff +classic native OSes more and more these days, but I haven't bothered with them yet, so... |
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Post by stratego on Feb 11, 2017 7:56:11 GMT -5
No 64-bit win xp? What's this then? Oh I had forgot this🙂 |
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Post by stratego on Feb 11, 2017 7:57:26 GMT -5
No 64-bit win xp? What's this then? Yeah, but that's for Itanium processors not x86 64bit extensions developed by AMD which Intel later took on cause Itanium was a commercial flop... Yeah, but you can make a decription kernel for this and you would be able to use this with every 64bit cpu |
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Feb 11, 2017 8:27:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but that's for Itanium processors not x86 64bit extensions developed by AMD which Intel later took on cause Itanium was a commercial flop... Yeah, but you can make a decription kernel for this and you would be able to use this with every 64bit cpu No need ... looked it up and XP professional edition x64 came out some time (~1 year?) after the Itanium version linked above. SP3 was the last major update to it. They still sell used discs of it on ebay, or if you have a product key you can download an iso of it. |
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Dual core at max, with the latest service pack. But where do you want to find that today...
