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Post by grävling on Feb 19, 2017 11:59:55 GMT -5
Either Brutus Aurelius and I got this wrong, or something went wonky with these 2 goods. In the description, Hydrogen Fuel is a principle export of Orbitals, and in demand on many worlds, with significant demand in Refinery and Industrial settlements. Methane Fuel is the same but only Industrial has the significant demand. But I am sitting with a big load of Hydrogen and Methane Fuel at a High Tech Industrial world now, and they absolutely do not want the stuff. They'd be delighted to sell me more of the things if only I had cargo space. |
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 19, 2017 12:07:23 GMT -5
I think this is an issue with the labeling between the game and our internal names for the economy types. We call Orbital "High Tech Industrial" because the "Space Orbital Industry" confused with "Orbital" stretch goal KS. I'm not sure what to do, but this is a case of terms being secretly equivalent behind the scenes. We should have relabeled "Orbital" as "high Tech" in the sheet we were working on in Gdocs. Let me talk to fallen about how we want to move foward here. |
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Feb 19, 2017 12:07:56 GMT -5
I think part of the problem is that High Tech Industrial is a separate economy from Industrial, and have different demands and supplies. However this is not shown in the doc.
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 19, 2017 12:10:23 GMT -5
I think part of the problem is that High Tech Industrial is a separate economy from Industrial, and have different demands and supplies. However this is not shown in the doc. It is labled Orbital |
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Feb 19, 2017 12:11:49 GMT -5
I think part of the problem is that High Tech Industrial is a separate economy from Industrial, and have different demands and supplies. However this is not shown in the doc. It is labled Orbital Haha I see that now. You beat my post by a couple seconds |
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Post by grävling on Feb 19, 2017 12:23:17 GMT -5
But, ah, I have been to things called orbitals. They weren't that at all?
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Feb 19, 2017 12:30:20 GMT -5
But, ah, I have been to things called orbitals. They weren't that at all? I think what Cory is saying is that Orbitals and High Tech Industrial are secretly the same economy. They just have different names. |
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Post by grävling on Feb 19, 2017 12:33:23 GMT -5
Oh. Yes, definitely one for 'you and fallen work this one out', then.  |
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Feb 19, 2017 12:42:24 GMT -5
I'm also editing any inconsistencies I see as I go. I'm not playing my merchant right now, so I won't get all of them for certain, but I already found a couple.
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Post by fallen on Feb 19, 2017 12:54:43 GMT -5
Sorry about this, we'll work on getting the GDoc straightened out as a starting point.
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Post by fallen on Feb 19, 2017 21:07:57 GMT -5
We have updated the Orbital column in the spreadsheet to be titled Orbital Industrial. This indicates that, much like in ST 4X Empires, the major industrial centers of the world as well as habitation have been moved into orbit. The planet is populated as well. These zones are shown as "High Tech Industrial" in the game today.
This is different than the KickStarter stretch goal of Orbital Station, which indicates a habitation unit above the world and if there is no separate urban zone on the planet, then the only habitation is the Orbital Station, which is non-industrial populate center.
We'll keep working on this -- no worries on updating the desciprtive text.
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Post by ChocoCrowbar on Feb 19, 2017 21:14:36 GMT -5
I haven't checked, but would docking at an orbital station be light on the fuel, say 1 water-fuel to dock?
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 19, 2017 21:18:12 GMT -5
I haven't checked, but would docking at an orbital station be light on the fuel, say 1 water-fuel to dock? Correct. Already implemented. Low turn count as well. Rolls for landing and danger avoidance not modulated by atmo for orbitals. Orbital ship encounter checks assume route at 15% normal distance. Orbital Zone application of Military Rating assumes high concentration of space based defenses. |
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Post by bobc on Feb 20, 2017 16:33:47 GMT -5
Jumped in on this thread since I have a question on labelling. Has the Smuggler economy been replaced with Tradeway?
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Post by fallen on Feb 20, 2017 16:35:16 GMT -5
Jumped in on this thread since I have a question on labelling. Has the Smuggler economy been replaced with Tradeway? Yes, which more accurately describes it. It is a trade hub, it has nothing to do with smugglers. |
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