athios
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Post by athios on Feb 27, 2017 2:46:29 GMT -5
Nice one, grävling!
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 27, 2017 11:22:20 GMT -5
Gov here is used in the same places that "Palace" was used in ST RPG. Which isn't going to help people who have never played STRPG, alas, and I want boatloads of them to try this game. Yeah -- and that's why we did the word analysis and found that "Gov" is our best option. It is definitely superior to Palace at first, later it becomes inferior. However, we're aiming at that new player with a lot of this so ... On the flip side, 1,000,000 ST RPG players is a pretty darn big pool to aim at!
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Post by grävling on Feb 27, 2017 12:04:46 GMT -5
I'd agree that Gov is better than Palace, but I still think that it just means there is an even better word out there we have missed. One idea is Gov for 'Governance' instead of 'Government', the old word that 'Government' displaced in the 1500s or so.
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Post by grävling on Mar 1, 2017 14:23:26 GMT -5
If you don't like 'Governance', what about 'Administration'? or 'Authority'?
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Post by grävling on Mar 2, 2017 6:26:06 GMT -5
I just glanced at my bookshelf, and my eye hit upon The Instrumentality of Mankind -- by Cordwainer Smith Hmm. Got me thinking. Here is the Instrumentality described (more can be found at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentality_of_Mankind ) Though the Instrumentality does not directly administer every planet, it claims ultimate guardianship over the destiny of the human race. For example, it strictly bans the export of religion from planet to planet. Its members, the Lords and Ladies of the Instrumentality, are collectively all-powerful and often somewhat callously arbitrary. Although their motives are genuinely benign, they act with utmost brutality when survival is at stake.
Here is an explanation from the story "Drunkboat":
"The Instrumentality was a self-perpetuating body of men with enormous powers and a strict code. Each was a plenum of the low, the middle, and the high justice. Each could do anything he found necessary or proper to maintain the Instrumentality and keep the peace between the worlds. But if he made a mistake or committed a wrong—ah, then, it was suddenly different. Any Lord could put another Lord to death in an emergency, but he was assured of death and disgrace himself if he assumed this responsibility. The only difference between ratification and repudiation came in the fact that Lords who killed in an emergency and were proved wrong were marked down on a very shameful list, while those who killed other Lords rightly (as later examination might prove) were listed on a very honorable list, but still killed. With three Lords, the situation was different. Three Lords made an emergency court; if they acted together, acted in good faith, and reported to the computers of the Instrumentality, they were exempt from punishment, though not from blame or even reduction to civilian status. Seven Lords, or all the Lords on a given planet at a given moment, were beyond any criticism except that of a dignified reversal of their actions should a later ruling prove them wrong.
"This was all the business of the Instrumentality. The Instrumentality had the perpetual slogan 'Watch, but do not govern; stop war, but do not wage it; protect, but do not control; and first, survive!'" I'd question the 'genuinely benign' part. The Instrumentality was cruel. Not personally, sadistically cruel but cruel in its very impersonality. The slogan may say 'do not govern/control' but the actions of various Lords and Ladies of the Instrumentality make the slogan a lie. But it occurred to me that 'the Instrumentality' -- which is a perfectly good English word, if rare, Smith did _not_ make it up -- might be along the lines of what we mean with Gov. Incidentally, people looking for something to read should give Smith a try. Truly unlike anything you have ever read before, and almost all short stories covering fifteen thousand years in humanity's existence.
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