Arts and Crafts

[phaze]

Some late game crafting results as promised. As I did not closely track the tuning item and results, I am leaving that out to not give people wrong information. However, I mostly tested sp drain and crit items with a dabbling in hp, sp, or elemental damage. Since this Ep 4 party sold many accessories from the early game, tuning was difficult since my stockpile consisted of late game items with multiple effects.

Great Bow: 43 - 125 damage, 11 acc, range 7: +120 max sp, +22 ice dam, 4% crit hit, +4 parry, +4 stealth, +6% sp drain >> This bow is actually better than the ice heart bow I believe. Tuning item was Sp drain I believe

Keen Tulwar: 36-59 dam, 8 parry/8 accuracy, +22 ice dam, +60% crit damage, +8 dodge, +5 stealth >> this is a crazy weapon for the + dodge and crit damage. It makes a dodge Kincaid drool in Ep 4 as increasing dodge gets harder to keep up with enemies. Tuning item was a dodge accessory as I recall.

Freeman Dueling Saber: 45-60 dam, 9 accuracy/6 parry, +12 ice dam, +24 lightning dam, 5% crit hit, +20% crit dam >> this is a nice damage upgrade for a 1 up blade with crit elements. Tuning item was a crit hit I believe

Vrotta Spines: 29-76 dam, 8 acc/5 parry, +4 fire dam, +20 lightning dam, 8% crit, 4% sp drain >> really great crit and sp drain combination. I believe the tuning item was crit % or sp drain.

Flashknives: 37-72 dam, 10 acc/5 parry, +1 move point, +22 lightning dam, +16% crit dam

Flashknives: 37-70 dam, 11 acc/4 parry, +1 move point, +120 hp, +22 fire dam, 78% crit dam >> Very nice damage boost for a crit character. I believe the tuning item was a fire/earth elemental accessory

Flashknives: 45-84 dam, 11 acc/4 parry, +22 ice dam, 5% crit, +5 stealth >> A very nice base damage boost with crit chance and stealth. Good use for a stealth Kincaid or Tamilin.

I really wanted a Flashknives with increased dodge but never seemed to pull one.

Behemoth Shield: 12 parry, auto block 6%, +500 HP, 2% crit chance, +6 dodge >> Incredible boost to a tank Vraes, Fyona, or Kyera with the added HP, improved base parry, and + dodge. Tuning item was a HP item as I recall

Behemoth Shield: 12 parry, auto block 6%, +180 sp, +3 dodge, +12 resist all, 8% sp drain >> Incredible boost to shield users needing more SP and SP drain.

Shields are probably my favorite crafting items so far as the stat bonuses are better than nearly all shields found in the game and especially since shields do not seem to be a choice for legendary items (of current content so far, correct me if I am wrong as I am have not played Vraes/Fyona to Ep 4). Vlotgar's shield is good as are the drops in OwH, but there is a major dry spell in shields for a lot of the game in my opinion.

Armors are more confusing to me since stealth and robes have good in-game varieties already and there is some unknowns with the evasion and stealth bonuses (at least display issues?). For regular light armors and heavy armors, there are good in-game varieties that are purchased in Granthorn, drop in CoD and OwH as well as good quest items (Oakheart, Vlotgars plate, Edict plate (if you can get Gholla to work correctly) as well as legendary armor for Kincaid/Vraes so far. The recent boost to Kincaid's legendary (+60% crit damage) is pretty awesome. I likely will not be upgrading armors given the in game drops and limited number of bloodstones.

Prime candidates for crafting are shields and weapons as my priorities. Shields are just amazing with crafting bonuses now and a crafted shield can last most of the entire game. Weapons are good candidates for improving key abilities like SP drain, crit, parry/dodge, and stealth depending on your party needs as well as modest improved base damage. I alway crave a better weapon with SP drain for damage dealers and sometimes the game doesn't give a drop. SP drain really is amazing for creating long-lasting parties that minimize camping.

Staves and robes, once available in mundane versions will be worth a look, though again, since there are really good in game drops for staves and robes, crafting would not be my top priority with the limited number of bloodstones.

[Sarellion]

Interesting thing is, I can´tremember these three quest items you mention.

[phaze]

Some of it depends on quest choices and what items you get, so depending on your play through in Ep 3 and 4, you may not see all of them, especially depending on how thorough you are.

I am making my way with a new party in Ep 1 and just crafted a shield for Kyera. A totally awesome feeling to be rocking a savage shield with parry 6, +100 sp, +6 dam, +2% crit chance, +8 res all, +8 SP drain. Next up on my list, a stealth bow for Tamilin followed by a dodge 1 ap knife for Kincaid.

To the Trese Brothers, have you considered in in-app purchase for bloodstones? I would totally do that. Since bloodstones are not evenly distributed across the game, a boost in supply could be useful. Though, since you are planning to add more bloodstones in Ep 1, this may become less of an issue.

[Sarellion]

Is there a list or anything like that or do I have to guess around?

AFAIK I did most quests, with the exception of doing Storm bastion when the west is already closed.
No idea what "get Gholla to work correctly" means. It seemed to me, that it didn´t, I couldn´t talk to the guys after CoD. Ok Vlothar´s plate is pretty easy to guess.

[Nathan]

Three late game armor crafts, both mundane armors found in OWH.
Bolded stats are worse than the original.

Plated Chain Hauberk (Heavy)
126 Armor
-5 Evasion

Fremat Dance (boots)
+2 Move, +2 Parry, +2 Dodge

Result - EQUIP ARMOR screen
Plated Chain Hauberk (Heavy)
120 Armor
-8 Evasion
+160 Max Hp, +14 Lightning Dmg, +4 Parry

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Rogue's Plate (Stealth)
82 Armor
+4 Evasion

Assassin's Ring (Ring)
+14Dmg, 6% Critical

Result - EQUIP ARMOR screen
Rogue's Plate (Stealth)
76 Armor
+5 Evasion
+160 Max HP, +14 Dmg, +5% SP Drain

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Rogue's Plate (Stealth)
82 Armor
+4 Evasion

Shadow Weave (Cloak)
3% Critical, +3 Parry, +3 Dodge

Result - EQUIP ARMOR screen
Rogue's Plate (Stealth)
76 Armor
+5 Evasion
+160 Max HP, +14 Dmg, +5% SP Drain

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fallen - earlier in this thread, there was mention of an issue relating to negative stats and/or evasion being removed from armor.
In all the armor crafts I've done (more than above), this isn't the case. It is true that that description line (white: Evasion|Stealth line) is not displayed on the craft results screen, but it is displayed on the EQUIP ARMOR screen, and reflected on the character's stat screen (also that line is missing on the Current Effects screen).

[fallen]

This is on my list to investigate.

Thanks for pointing out the missing line of text in the crafting screen!

[Smaug]

I'm really trying to understand how to crafting an item, but the explanations seem increasingly complicated, can not simply modify the creation system, to be simpler,

Tune exactly the properties of an item and apply them?
 
Or at least giving 90% chances of an item having Exact those increased properties?
 This way it is simpler to understand or could simply

For example if I have items with fire damage or ice damage
I could tune them to mundane items to be able to take a large fire or ice damage on a single item rather than loading multiple items to take that damage

[Smaug]

Mar 14, 2017 9:57:45 GMT -5 tran said:

I am thinking of us having a CRAFTING GUIDE, and before you ask, no, don't find all those mundane gears and craft them with your limitted suppy of bloodstone; instead, have a formula of what item + that magical gear = these bonuses. I found that some gears could only gain 2-3 set of bonuses despite the magical item you used to craft it. For example, I try the behemouth shield at Freeport (at least I think that is its name) and despite my effort to try different thing, it only gives 500 hp, 4 crit and some range auto block; the savage shield (round type) would give dodge, crit and auto block instead; and 1ap dagger tends to always give dodge bonus or sealth, depends on the magical attunement;...

So, if anyone wanting to make this guide, it would be golden. You could make a tip and technique post, craft and write down some formula you experience, and having others sharing their crafting results there and slowly finishing the guide

I truly think that this could be as informative as our other guides, so once again, *cough* mr Robinson *cough*

Is there any crafting guide already? It would really be very useful

[fallen]

no, there is no official guide at this time.

[Nathan]

I just found another uncraftable armor:
Relliat Bone Plate (Heavy)
104 Armor
-2 Evasion

Found in Granthron Mines
Images sent

[richard]

I found two uncraftable armor:

Articulate Bone Plate 90Armor -2Ev
Bone Plate and Chain 96Armor -3Ev

[fallen]

Fixed all 3 reported ones for next.

[BrownKnight]

May 20, 2017 11:13:09 GMT -5 Smaug said:

I'm really trying to understand how to crafting an item, but the explanations seem increasingly complicated, can not simply modify the creation system, to be simpler,

Tune exactly the properties of an item and apply them?
 
Or at least giving 90% chances of an item having Exact those increased properties?
 This way it is simpler to understand or could simply

For example if I have items with fire damage or ice damage
I could tune them to mundane items to be able to take a large fire or ice damage on a single item rather than loading multiple items to take that damage

Without trying to derail this thread entirely, I'm hoping to answer your question.
I'm using spiked shields as an example here, and giving you a few screenshots:




Shield 1




Shield 2




Shield 3

These 3 spiked shields are the ONLY spiked shields that can be crafted.  Every spiked shield that is crafted will be one of these three, no matter what tuner is used.

Every item works this way, and has 3-5 crafted forms total.  Nothing outside those pre-made forms can be crafted.

That is the most important thing to remember. 


Now, about tuners:

If no tuner is used, crafting will make a spiked shield into one of these 3 types, chosen randomly.

If a tuner is used that has accuracy, you will get shield #1, as it is the only one with accuracy.  a dodge tuner will make shield #2, and a tuner with SP will make shield #3.


Tuners with All resist or HP will make the shield that is the closest to the value of the tuner.  For example, a tuner with less than 160 HP should make shield #1, and a tuner with 12 resist all should make it as well. 

If a tuner's stats fall exactly evenly between two of these shields (for example, a tuner with exactly 160 HP) then it is random which one you will get.


If a tuner has multiple stats that can effect which shield you'd get, then each stat is compared with each possible shield, and you get the shield that, overall, is closest to the tuner. 




@ fallen:  That said, I believe I found a few errors in tuning:



The bracers here have (Only) 28 HP.  Shouldn't that give me shield#1?  I got shield #2 instead.


This cloak has resistances only, why did I get the ONLY shield of the three that has no resists?

[BrownKnight]

Not sure what I did wrong there, but my screenshots are not showing up, and I'm unable to edit the post due to guest status. If a mod could look into it, the filepaths for the screenshots are correct, I must have messed up the code somewhere.

[phaze]

I've noted a few unexpected crafts as well. Specialist finally with the spiked shield but possibly other items. It could that be that something doesn't register with the tuning item and a random result is produced?

Notably I've tried tuning items with sp on the spiked shield and get results of shields with hp only. Also with the behemoth shield.

Overall, I generally get what I expect from crafts. With the added bloodstones in Ep 1 and multiple stones in Ep 4, there are enough to craft items so it isn't a big loss.

I have found it useful to focus on a few item slots for the team and focus crafting as needed. You can't outfit all items, but crafted items can fill in gaps or amplify strengths at key points.