Return to Gholla.

[cowboypete]

On this playthrough I have returned to Gholla after having completed it before doing Vurnak, now after CoD (part 1)and Cortias.
I spared H originally.

I was pleased to see there was dialogue but quickly it appears to be the same as the first confrontation except the dialogue has changed to address having met Nikolai and the CoD events.
Then it implies Niko is still alive, then changes to him being dead and H is spared directly by Ry.

It is very confusing.

[fallen]

cowboypete - sorry to hear about this bug.

I have to admit, I confused by the bug report and am not sure I can act on it without further detail. You'd have to help me by giving a 1,2,3 approach, listing each step you took and what happened (simple explanation) and then at what point you think it went wrong.

[cowboypete]

Ok.
My team is vraes Vincent fyona and tamilin.
After red hill storeroom they went to riven field and did not support Barnett.
Then fought Crete to relieve the shipping.
On to brunehorne, did not stop at shrines.
Prospectors path. Crag peak. Sea road. Bone pass south.
Brunehorne. Talia island.
Upset cultist house but didn't venture into underforge.
Back west, cleared map incl travellers shrines. Up to braeys land.
Spoke to everyone, reis lodge before rescuing valent. Braeyshaulm. Ironwood ridge. Bone pass north. Gholla. Spare Hagathrun. Clear maps both times.
Back to brunehorne on foot, clearing maps.
Underforge completion.
Back to verenhaulm. Hunting lodge.
Kill Vlotgar. Didn't take 5k gold.
Back to brunehorne. Fang quest until get heartbeats of summer. Then braeyshaulm, agree to CoD for Braeys. Then ask for ember log. Back to granthorn. Bone pass south. Storm bros and Orcin. Riven field mercenaries. Visit red hill. Darkmoss druid. Darkmoss flowers. Storm bros. Fang completion. Spare Tevensa, save Miranna. Retrieve Wyatts goodies.
Prospectors pass. Ironwood ridge. CoD.
Nikolai on east side. East tower first. Met Nikolai again on west side. Then cleared the west side and platinum peaks. Killed wraith in second East tower but unlocked red doors in second west tower. Did all 4 hidden dungeons. (Despite tamilin stating the reward would be worth it, the fight was barely worth it.)
Storm bastion to tell about facing seers. Only referred to fighting one when I had fought two. Gholla to say I saw Nikolai - no dialogue.
CoD third tower. Nikolai fought a retreat as we escaped. We didn't see him again.
Kept true identity secret from Morgan.
Crossed the lake, Miranna is there (where's knight marco?)
Visit Brunehorne, overland pass and tevensas blessing on the way.
Storm bastion then Monastery. Cortiass. 1H hammer. Asked bastion smith where to find a better smith. Granthorn. Amarth forged 1H spear. (-accuracy put me off armour).
Back to braeys lake camp and north. Different pass with Vlotgar dead. No white walker references.
Braeyshaulm. Gholla. Enter Temple of Law with option to "confront the God".

Team enters temple the same as they did the first time they confronted the God - as if they had just broken the siege. Dialogue says Nikolai said we would find him there.
Hagathrun knows he dropped the peacemaker to fight the seer. Team mentions he is still alive but still in CoD (we will see him again). Ryethin appears just like she did the first time we were there. States that since we bore bad/sad news that Nikolai had been killed it was a sad time for the family so Hagathrun could fade away. No need to make a choice.

I think it went wrong when team revisited temple of Law after CoD.
I hope it helps.

[fallen]

cowboypete - yes ... this is exactly the level of detail that will help us figure out the complex bug that makes this happen. Thank you very much for taking the time to type it up in exhaustive detail. I will see if I can reproduce and fix!

#HOS-3746

[cowboypete]

I'm so sorry. Brunehorn doesn't have an 'e' on the end.
A few other spelling issues too but I'm glad you figured it out.

[cowboypete]

One more thing, unsure of the relevance.
Upon the last meeting with Nikolai before the fight there are two conversation options.
1. "You look like you have something to share..."
And
2. "We know about your family history"
(Paraphrased)

I chose option 1.

[fallen]

Thank you, its very possible that plays a part in this.

[matrim]

Just want to highlight that this happened to me as well. V 4.4.23 K,K,F,T
I basically followed the same path as cowboypete with differences that I will highlight.
Support Baron G, Killed H (why it was weird that we confront him again), spared V, didn’t take 5000G from wagon, spared Tavensa, kept identity a secret. I have not done anything in episode 4 yet except clear to both cities and confront both leaders. I also did not revisit red Hill (I was unaware this was a thing).
Same dialogue issue as cowboy, saying Nikolai was alive in the city, then switching to dead, then got the armour.

[fallen]

Thanks for the details. This is the literally the toughest and longest living HoS bug ever. I've tried to fix it so many times.

[fallen]

This bug is finally fixed -- at least this version of it:

1) You break the siege.
2) You leave Hagathrun alive.
3) You go to the CoD, Nikolai survives
4) You come back to tell Hagathrun -- you tell him Nikolai died

The italics part at least is fixed at last.

Thanks for the report on this cowboypete!

[cowboypete]

Feb 15, 2018 10:44:04 GMT -5 fallen said:

This bug is finally fixed -- at least this version of it:

1) You break the siege.
2) You leave Hagathrun alive.
3) You go to the CoD, Nikolai survives
4) You come back to tell Hagathrun -- you tell him Nikolai died

The italics part at least is fixed at last.

Thanks for the report on this cowboypete!

Awesome! Well done, I'm glad I was able to be helpful.