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Post by John514 on Apr 14, 2018 19:53:18 GMT -5
Hey guys ,before getting in the party build stuff ,i just wanted to say how i love Trese Brothers games,i met them for the first time with Templar Battleforce and i instantly falled in love,so i started playing them all ,my favourite by far Heroes of Steel,so here am i trying to build a team with a tanky Vraes,Vincent,Fyona and Tamilin but i never find a -AP that suits me and my only damage dealers are vincent and tamilin,fyona as a buffer with SoC and RF,so any tips?
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Post by CdrPlatypus on Apr 14, 2018 20:46:32 GMT -5
john514 Welcome! Come join us on discord too. My current favorite build for Vraes is in my Heavy metal post. He can be quite tanky on his own and equipping him with a 2 handed hammer really helps with damage especially against high armour/resistance targets. A 2-handed Vraes lore build is able to tank and deal good single target damage at the same time. Basically Stone Sin 3, then Natural Mastery 1, then BoS 1, then take stone skin right up to 10. After that you will hit lvl 18 and your damage talent choices get interesting. Non of them are really wrong. Im playing with Juggernaut, but there are good arguments for crushing blow and ferocity as well. I hihgly suggest making Vincent your -ap and support character with this group you are running. Flash Freeze 6+ is amazing for shutting up a bunch of mobs in one cast. Also later you can branch a conjuring version of Vincent into an elemental sundering melee build lvl 18+ very easily. I'm not personally a big fan of Tam's torrent of steel because of its low range. I prefer to spec her for High Crit long distance attacks. With Fyona you can combine holy strickening with thundering blades from vincent and or +elemental damge gear to boost your teams damage up, you will be sacrificing some defense talents to do that that though. What difficulty level are you playing on?
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Post by John514 on Apr 14, 2018 21:15:30 GMT -5
Hey thanks for the advice ,am playing on normal ,how do i join the discord chat?
Regarding vraes i really love to use him with phalanx shield and stone skin for starting,vincet i would rather have him with Flash Freeze and energy storm i love hi AoE attacks,about fyona i think i will go with shield of cortias, righteous fervour and maybe holy strickening or consecrated defense and am not sure it will be able to lvl up blessed aura,abou tamilin i love her with a bow ,deadly intuition and ranged onslaught.
What do you think ,its a efficient build or should i scarp it?
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Post by En1gma on Apr 14, 2018 21:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by En1gma on Apr 14, 2018 21:17:24 GMT -5
One of usssss
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Post by John514 on Apr 14, 2018 21:20:02 GMT -5
Thanks enigma and forgive my grammar ,am on my phone and normally end up eating some letters
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Post by CdrPlatypus on Apr 14, 2018 22:08:03 GMT -5
Join the forums so I can tag you pleas
I think you will have difficulties from the storeroom on and definitly with certain boss fights without ap stripping. Also You are losing out on a lot of damge potential. It is possible to make Vraes tanky enough for nightmare ironman while still doing damage. There is a thing as too much tank. Since he is on the front lines and will often be tanking the boss mob you want him to do atleast medium single target damage.
If you want Vincent to use energy storm you should either run tam as knives or better imo switch her out to selen and rush pinning shot 5 then combine that with reckoning later.
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Post by john514 on Apr 14, 2018 22:18:26 GMT -5
CdrPlatypus So i will follow your advise about vraes and go with a 2 handed hammer ,but i dont understand why change tam to knives or switch her for selen.
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Post by fallen on Apr 14, 2018 22:20:30 GMT -5
john514 - welcome to the party! We hope you'll join us on Discord and also please consider leaving a review on the games you love to help support us!
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Post by CdrPlatypus on Apr 14, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5
john514 I highly suggest reading ADODA and Combat Mechanics for a good primer on indepth strategy for this game. Basically as the game goes on you are going to want a ranged -ap curse or cursing attack. Anyways play the game, have fun, and join us in the madness. Experience is the best teacher! However I cannot reccomend reading the AODA thread enough. Combat mechanics if you want to get deep into meta and understand all the math that is going on behind the scenes.
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Post by john514 on Apr 14, 2018 23:24:25 GMT -5
john514 I highly suggest reading ADODA and Combat Mechanics for a good primer on indepth strategy for this game. Basically as the game goes on you are going to want a ranged -ap curse or cursing attack. Anyways play the game, have fun, and join us in the madness. Experience is the best teacher! However I cannot reccomend reading the AODA thread enough. Combat mechanics if you want to get deep into meta and understand all the math that is going on behind the scenes. I have done already ,its a great guide ,my ranged -ap will be vincent
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