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Post by grävling on May 29, 2012 5:03:17 GMT -5
Now that Penetration has become more important, I wonder if it makes sense for the top-of-the line Cybernetic Hand Blades (cyberclaws) to have penetration of 4. The MT Taser unit, for reference, has Penetration of 5. I think that for 10 times the cost, the top of the line cyberclaws should be better at Penetration. While they are AP:2 and not AP:3, they are poorer in both speed (3 vs 4) and penetration. Thus I am finding that the MT taser now performs better than the top of the line cyberclaws, which before wasn't true.
The accuracy bonus (5 vs 2) is of course a big improvement, but by the time I can afford top-of-the-line cyberclaws, accuracy isn't a problem for me.
I think that speed should be changed to 'blows per attack' and 'shots per attack' to avoid confusion.
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Post by fallen on May 29, 2012 9:34:06 GMT -5
grävling - Cory and I will take a look at this one. We are also discussing the label change for "speed" but we want it to make sense and be more specific to the 13 classes of weapons. Stay tuned.
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Post by grävling on May 29, 2012 9:37:28 GMT -5
Thank you.
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Post by gravismetallum on May 29, 2012 10:55:02 GMT -5
I played a few games where "rate" was the stat describing rate of fire and number of melee strikes.
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Post by Cory Trese on May 29, 2012 23:42:01 GMT -5
Rate is pretty good. Attacks Per Turn is a tough one to fit on the screen.
Gravling -- I actually am going to admit that I had the cyber weapons filtered out when I did the balancing math for the penetration.
My fault and I agree they should be increased.
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Post by grävling on May 30, 2012 1:40:34 GMT -5
Glad to hear that the cyberclaws are going to be increased, as right now I am finding that the cybersword starting weapon of crome knucklers is more effective than cyberclaws.
Thank you.
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Post by grävling on May 30, 2012 3:29:50 GMT -5
I like 'rate' as well. Especially if we can put a note in the documentation that says rate = rate of fire (for guns) and blows per attack (for melée weapons).
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Post by Cory Trese on May 31, 2012 0:33:55 GMT -5
[fixed by me]
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Post by toss on Jun 26, 2012 3:55:18 GMT -5
By the way, where can one find the claws? I've encountered them once or twice about a month ago and have not seen them since then >_<
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Post by grävling on Jun 26, 2012 4:54:09 GMT -5
Saytek medical sells the top of the line ones.
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Post by toss on Jun 26, 2012 6:51:49 GMT -5
Made a quick run to Saytek. The implants available there are:
-rage finder
-dermal sheathing
-mechalung
-cyber heart
-chipped reflexes
-narvidium bones.
Not a trace of cyberclaws. =\
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Post by absimiliard on Jun 26, 2012 10:30:31 GMT -5
Actually, I'm wondering if something isn't more badly broken with regards to cyberclaws. I'm not finding any cyberclaws for sale, anywhere.
Cory: Is it possible your fix removed them from the database of salable items? (I've noticed that many shops have a high-end progression that goes through three sets of head-gear, starting w. the 40 size memory implant and ending w. the 100, that makes me suspect there are missing items that used to be for sale in that slot.
-abs
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Post by LordofSyn on Jun 26, 2012 14:47:51 GMT -5
Madripoor Lawyers and all... maybe there is something more to this debacle...or maybe...
just maybe...
I made it seem as though there were a conspiracy...lol
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Post by grävling on Jun 26, 2012 17:32:55 GMT -5
My old saved characters who should have hand blades don't. And martial artist runners who should be so equipped instead are wearing the 'useless in a fight' gloves. You can remove these gloves and find normalheavy gloves underneath.
edit: hmm, no, some of my old chars still have their cyberclaws 3, so its more complicated.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jun 26, 2012 21:41:34 GMT -5
Combat Blades III are on sale in at least:
Mars Corp Private Clinic
Cyberdyne Medical Tech
Saytek Medical Research Facility
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