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Post by phantombudgie on Jul 7, 2012 14:33:05 GMT -5
Ah, now I understand why I haven't understood this yet!
One Question - if my ship is bought as MEDUIM agility and I upgrade it such that Engines become > 2* Hull, will the game treat my ship as MEDIUM or QUICK? (or does it just ue the numerical ratio Engines/Hull?)
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 7, 2012 14:34:56 GMT -5
The game will treat it as Medium and use the bonus from the additional Engine points
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 17:59:20 GMT -5
Okay, just one more thing. I know sails help acurate and evade torpedos, and guns help acurate guns. Do engines also evade guns, or is that sails as well? Depends on the range of the attack which ship attribute is used to calculate the defense dice. Defense at Combat Long Range = Solar Sails / Ship Speed Defense at Combat Medium Range = Solar Sails / Ship Speed Defense at Combat Short Range = Ship Engines / Ship Agility Defense at Combat Boarding Range = Ship Engines / Ship Agility Got it. There's nothing in the help section about this other than under sails in which it says sails "evade in combat". Also, its stated sails fire torps and engines fire guns, but I have a feeling engines would help with torps if at short range and sails would fire guns at medium and long ranges (which is done sometimes). Please clear this up at the help section during your next update. We should have a help section thread thats stickyed for people requesting additions or removals to the help. |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 7, 2012 18:35:22 GMT -5
I'll see what I can do in a future update, certainly. There are several hundreds issues logged about the help file and several long-time players and rules experts like slayerNz have volunteered to help.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 19:00:14 GMT -5
Several hundred? I bet I can think of at least 50 things that are flawed in the help.
Also you've said people were working on the help section in the past, but no changes have happened. The 1 addition you made to the sails/engines was the only moification to the help in a while. Maybe you can have 2 help sections.... One for forum members and 1 for you guys. And the stuff that's put in to the forum help that you like/agree with you can add to your help.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 7, 2012 21:45:15 GMT -5
Sorry we haven't been making acceptable progress  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 22:16:51 GMT -5
Sorry we haven't been making acceptable progress No you definety have. Your game has more updates than any other game. EVER. You might actually be able to get into guiness for the most updates in a game. I just thought maybe it would be better if everyone could contribute, so it could be dome faster. Prehaps I could be a bit more tactful though |
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Post by slayernz on Jul 8, 2012 17:40:41 GMT -5
Hey Starfixer - please feel free to PM me with anything you want written up into a help document. If you've actually got the answer, even better, as I can cut/paste better than I can type <grin>. Nonetheless, I am definitely working on updates to the help section - it's just this stupid day-job thing that I have forces me to actually do work and not write help content. I've set myself some milestone targets but have already missed a couple. Cory'll soon just send me abuse and that'll help motivate me to finish  |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 8, 2012 17:56:48 GMT -5
Hey Starfixer - please feel free to PM me with anything you want written up into a help document. If you've actually got the answer, even better, as I can cut/paste better than I can type <grin>. Nonetheless, I am definitely working on updates to the help section - it's just this stupid day-job thing that I have forces me to actually do work and not write help content. I've set myself some milestone targets but have already missed a couple. Cory'll soon just send me abuse and that'll help motivate me to finish Yesterday I sent you 32 megabytes of documentation. It's several hundred pages at least Consider yourself abused! |
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Post by slayernz on Jul 8, 2012 18:44:04 GMT -5
Yeah I got that ... it'll keep me happily busy. |
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Post by captmo on Jul 9, 2012 20:59:01 GMT -5
Not for nothin, but isn't figuring all this stuff out on your own part of the fun? I wouldn't want a help file to explain everything detail for detail.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 9, 2012 21:13:37 GMT -5
Not for nothin, but isn't figuring all this stuff out on your own part of the fun? I wouldn't want a help file to explain everything detail for detail. Everyone has different tastes in games -- I myself rarely look at the documentation -- personally preferring a complex system that I can "figure out" via experimentation. This style is not for everyone -- that is why we (me and a series of people who have tried to help) keep trying to improve the help files. Part of the reason ST RPG exists today is that I launched full-speed into the math and simulation code without any intention of documenting it in English. That game me the freedom to build and validate the layers and layers of complexity with a mathematical approach without a focus on concise structure or easily explainable equations. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 21:24:02 GMT -5
Hey Starfixer - please feel free to PM me with anything you want written up into a help document. If you've actually got the answer, even better, as I can cut/paste better than I can type <grin>. Yeah sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 21:26:22 GMT -5
The game will treat it as Medium and use the bonus from the additional Engine points The ancient reactors upgrade says that it gives a landing bonus and titan components give a combat bonus. But does the engines from ancient reactors stil give you a combat bonus becaue of the additional engines? Do the engines of titan components and ancient reactos help change range because of additional engines? |
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Post by Cory Trese on Jul 9, 2012 21:49:49 GMT -5
The game will treat it as Medium and use the bonus from the additional Engine points The ancient reactors upgrade says that it gives a landing bonus and titan components give a combat bonus. But does the engines from ancient reactors stil give you a combat bonus becaue of the additional engines? Do the engines of titan components and ancient reactos help change range because of additional engines? Counts as Engines for all rolls. Where it says they have a bonus, they count as double (+10 instead of +5) |
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