Yurak
Consul
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Post by Yurak on Feb 14, 2013 17:43:38 GMT -5
Gräv I'm curious to know what stats you'd consider 'safe' for both Security territory and Corp territory
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Post by grävling on Feb 14, 2013 18:36:13 GMT -5
I want an AP of at least 9 (unmodified by stims) to go to KH or BS in Brutal, and athletics of 5. My teammates can get by with Athletics of 4 if they are martial artists but also want that 5 of they are snipers. For Corps land (regular travel, not the odd dash in and out) , it is not so much that I need better stats but I need everybody on my team to be in nano ready armour. If I am to regularly doing corps missions, I want my marksmanship and that of any snipers on my team to be such that using a HunterSight is natural -- the accuracy of 2 no longer matters. The game gets tweaked and that number changes, right now I am seeing it as firearms of 7. If you are reading this note sometime in the future, there is no guarantee that the number will still be this. Of course, playing on brutal I cannot afford 1 death (of me) so this makes me cautious. Also the firearms figure is probably something smaller if you are playing easy or even crazy.
I've been known to take 'dash right to the Lion and the Harpy' missions a lot earlier, and taxi-to-the-Moon-Room load up with jobs and taxi out missions just before I intend to walk around in KH land. But that's risk taking, and I do have characters die of it.
Other people who have different playing styles probably have different rules.
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Post by dracon on Feb 14, 2013 20:11:54 GMT -5
Just an update.
My current skills:
Body 6(7) / Balistic 10, Deflction 9, Dodge -3
Str 2
Athl 5
Brawl 3(5)
Dex 6
Stealth 6 (8)
Firearms 7 (9)
Mind 4, Int 2, Perc 4.
I've noticed sudden increase in difficulity with K.Horizon - often 3-4 Predator Droned and Cyber Knights. Those drones still hit me for 2 HP. It looks like its some critical I think.
Now I want to hunt for Firewatch Commander CPU - is it just a matter of having 11k and looking in Fennian backrooms? Any rep requirements?
I also noticed sometning with contractors over matrix - I was doing contracts for Mars and BraveStar - but my rep with them dodn't go up - is it a bug to report?
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Post by grävling on Feb 14, 2013 20:21:40 GMT -5
Just an update. My current skills: Body 6(7) / Balistic 10, Deflction 9, Dodge -3 Str 2 Athl 5 Brawl 3(5) Dex 6 Stealth 6 (8) Firearms 7 (9) Mind 4, Int 2, Perc 4. I've noticed sudden increase in difficulity with K.Horizon - often 3-4 Predator Droned and Cyber Knights. Those drones still hit me for 2 HP. It looks like its some critical I think. Now I want to hunt for Firewatch Commander CPU - is it just a matter of having 11k and looking in Fennian backrooms? Any rep requirements? I also noticed sometning with contractors over matrix - I was doing contracts for Mars and BraveStar - but my rep with them dodn't go up - is it a bug to report? The Firewatch is no longer sold in all the backrooms. Indeed, it is only sold by one guy in one backroom, and it's not the Fennian one. To get your rep up with any faction, doing the odd job for them is not enough. You have to do lots of jobs for them -- more good for them than you sleep off in decay every time you use a hotel. I suggest getting the 4 jobs computer first and then working your rep up, though of course if you want to look for Firewatches in Mars and BS backrooms you will have to get a tiny amount of positive rep with them before they will let you in. |
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Post by dracon on Feb 14, 2013 20:26:49 GMT -5
I suggest getting the 4 jobs computer first and then working your rep up, though of course if you want to look for Firewatches in Mars and BS backrooms you will have to get a tiny amount of positive rep with them before they will let you in. Both Mars and BraveStar backrooms? Who am I looking for? Thanks!!! |
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Post by grävling on Feb 14, 2013 21:22:29 GMT -5
Ah, unless you want me to PM you the answer, you will have to hunt all of the backrooms for the Firewatch. You are looking for a Security Decker who sells them on the side. And the 'both Mars and Bravestar' -- those are the places where you can get martial artist runners. I don't tell people in the forums where you can get a firewatch, as that ruins things for those who like to make such discoveries themselves. But PM me if you want the answer.
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Yurak
Consul
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Post by Yurak on Feb 15, 2013 4:42:06 GMT -5
Gräv out of curiosity do you need a 'higher rep' (I haven't got an idea of approximates) before you can buy the firewatch like with the BS armour fixer?
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Post by grävling on Feb 15, 2013 5:23:49 GMT -5
Not a bit. I don't think this is a 'loyalty award' for hard working CyberKnights who are of proven value to the organisation. I think this is a 'my bastard bosses don't pay me enough, so guess what just fell off a truck! sort of operation'. ;D
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Post by dracon on Feb 15, 2013 6:28:23 GMT -5
Just another question... I thought sniper would complement my playstyle - I just cannot find secondary shorter weapon for him. Neither glove or Lightfire works - anything other than long range rifles?
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Post by grävling on Feb 15, 2013 6:51:42 GMT -5
Just another question... I thought sniper would complement my playstyle - I just cannot find secondary shorter weapon for him. Neither glove or Lightfire works - anything other than long range rifles? For your runners, no, Snipers only use rifles. I miss the days when we could give them CyberClaws as well. For you, yourself as a CyberKnight, if the taser glove in one hand and the mk251 bounty in the other is not working for you, then you need to train either brawling or firearms, depending on what it is that isn't working (sounds like the cyan glove in this case). |
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Post by dracon on Feb 15, 2013 7:02:53 GMT -5
Oh, they workin fine. I even get some implants. Now I have 10AP, which seems most important. Just those implants with +2D3 AP look so sweet... As for sniper, I just like idea of team. Just his accuracy would suck on short ranges, but I guess I will buy him another mk251 to save reload  Its just too expensive to increase hil athleticks so we cannot retreat well. |
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Post by Ahab on Feb 15, 2013 9:39:46 GMT -5
I've never seen all contacts text on a red background. I think you should report that as a bug, in the bugs section, too. Thank you for all the tips, much appreciated. With that red background it is, more precisely, frame around text. There is sometimes red and sometimes blue. Maybe there is a connection with some rumors? I couldn't find connection yet. It doesn't look like bug... well, I'll leave it for later. The different background colors in dialogue boxes is determined by the zone. It's not a bug. |
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Post by dracon on Feb 15, 2013 10:10:14 GMT -5
Thanks Ahab for explaining.
At the moment I've reached 50 rep with BS and Lt. Simon, after mentioning safehouses, gave me v-chip with some contact - I added it but I couldn't find it later. It might be Nelson Garden - but he doesn't do anything. Was it him?
Might it have something to do with water damaged apartment (the only safehouse I bought)?
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Post by grävling on Feb 15, 2013 10:16:05 GMT -5
That was probably Gibson's chip. Gibson wants Yakuza data. Feel free to ignore him, he is incidental to the plot.
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Post by dracon on Feb 15, 2013 15:42:03 GMT -5
I'm proceeding now to find Eliza. Marvelous story! And great way to find tips on the way. I think it it is one of best games I've seen - no feel of anything being lineal, very well design.
I laughed a lot when I tried hacking! Great interface! I wish I haven't deleted file with network map. I like that hacker Kidd. Just not sure what weapons can he use, I could develop him as melee, but could he use anything? I tried to buy couple of weapons, hit and miss. If he cannot use any close range I will try pistols and make him hacker/gunslinger?
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Its just too expensive to increase hil athleticks so we cannot retreat well.