Double tap outside of combat...

[VincentD]

I don't know if this has been discussed before but why the change? The second tap is to confirm your move in combat but outside there's no need since its 90% exploration. Or maybe its just me who does not like it??? :-\

[algesan]

I prefer the old way. It's a lot better way to deal with strategic movement, but it isn't as intuitive, so the n00bs don't like it. Thus, to help support the Brothers, we need to double tap in strategic. This way more people will buy the game.

[Swami]

There were whiners who didn't like that single tap outside of combat and double tap inside combat and put up bad reviews due to the "inconsistency".

[fallen]

Thanks all for the feedback, we are working on this one.

The community has spoken, so to speak

[contributor]

I havent spoken because I don't want to make you guys second guess yourselves, but I did like things the way they were at first. Double-tap when glomed isn't a total buzz-kill, but there was a certain logic to having it be single-tap regardless of whether it seemed consistent to some or not.

[Cory Trese]

There was logic, we spent a lot of time in the alpha talking about it.

We tried to respond to a review on a big site and incorporate their feedback.

In the end, that choice wasn't as popular with the players as we had hoped.

We're going to take another shot at it. Lessons learned.

[slayernz]

Err .. the community didn't like the inconsistency between single-tap Glom, and double-tap non-Glom. I personally would have gone the other way and made it single tap, for non-Glom and Glom alike ... Save double-tap for combat only because rule #2 clearly states ...

[Cory Trese]

Jan 22, 2014 17:05:19 GMT -5 slayernz said:

Err .. the community didn't like the inconsistency between single-tap Glom, and double-tap non-Glom. I personally would have gone the other way and made it single tap, for non-Glom and Glom alike ... Save double-tap for combat only because rule #2 clearly states ...

I guess it all depends on which stream of feedback you're reading and how you count the votes?

There is so much dislike for so many things, it is hard to keep it all straight sometimes! =)

[slayernz]

You've got a better visibility of what feedback is saying - I'm loving the game regardless of single or double-tap Still think having an option (noooooo, not an option screen anymore) could be a nice way to appease both camps.

[Cory Trese]

Jan 22, 2014 17:46:10 GMT -5 slayernz said:

You've got a better visibility of what feedback is saying - I'm loving the game regardless of single or double-tap Still think having an option (noooooo, not an option screen anymore) could be a nice way to appease both camps.

Screen or not, if you support two touch handler modes ... the cost isn't displaying the option, it is keeping those duplicate touch handlers around for years and having them stop you at every turn when you try to improve the game engine.

And, according to my research and data ... no one uses the double tap option in ST.

[slayernz]

That's really interesting - I can understand why in that game, and the logic flows to non-combat movement in HS too. Combat is a different kettle of fish and the double-tap works well there, but non-combat is all about simplicity of movement, especially moving in the large areas that can be found in HS

[VincentD]

Jan 22, 2014 17:54:11 GMT -5 slayernz said:

That's really interesting - I can understand why in that game, and the logic flows to non-combat movement in HS too. Combat is a different kettle of fish and the double-tap works well there, but non-combat is all about simplicity of movement, especially moving in the large areas that can be found in HS

What I wanted to write but much clearer, thanks!

[slayernz]

Jan 22, 2014 20:05:05 GMT -5 VincentD said:

What I wanted to write but much clearer, thanks!

If you can't get a cat to write something eloquently, who can you get?

[Cory Trese]

Jan 22, 2014 17:54:11 GMT -5 slayernz said:

That's really interesting - I can understand why in that game, and the logic flows to non-combat movement in HS too. Combat is a different kettle of fish and the double-tap works well there, but non-combat is all about simplicity of movement, especially moving in the large areas that can be found in HS

The way touch handlers bind in our implementation of Cocos2d-x makes it non-optimal to use more than one.

In HS, there is one touch handler for Glom/UnGlom/Combat/Non-Combat/Talent/Move/Attack/etc

So that's part of why it's so complex.

It's also why we have absolutely gorgeous perfection in pinch zoom on every device I can find.

[rabidbite]

Jan 22, 2014 17:05:19 GMT -5 slayernz said:

Err .. the community didn't like the inconsistency between single-tap Glom, and double-tap non-Glom. I personally would have gone the other way and made it single tap, for non-Glom and Glom alike ... Save double-tap for combat only because rule #2 clearly states ...

Hmm. How about this idea. Give a visual aid that makes sure to mark if its a single tap or a double tap. Like BLUE circle for double, and Yellow circle for single?

That way its obvious that there IS a deliberate difference. The real complain might not be that it is inconsistent, but that it CONFUSING.

If that makes any sense.

rabid