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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 18:29:22 GMT -5
Hi Gravling. I just wanted to ask you, please, if it is possible to reach an almost invulnerable condition, for your CK, in the harder levels of the game, or is there always a knife-edge existence? Thank you.
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 18:37:47 GMT -5
You can become immortal as the game stands now. But harder combat for high-level knights is promised for the relatively near future, so some of my Immortals may get to come out and play again.
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Post by Jacob on Feb 1, 2014 18:39:32 GMT -5
grävling, would you be willing to explain your tactics to make one of your CKs immortal? Sent from my broken HTC Desire C using proboards. Anyone's got a fan?
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:03:32 GMT -5
grävling, would you be willing to explain your tactics to make one of your CKs immortal? Sent from my broken HTC Desire C using proboards. Anyone's got a fan? Plan for a team of 2. One is the cybersword martial artist (or fights like one, at any rate) and one is the Sniper. One is you. The other is your best buddy. So you could be the Taser-glove expert Face, for instance with a Sniper runner, or the Sniping Agent-Ex with a martial artist runner. It's the fighting styles that matter here. The Runner can only fight one way. You can fight both ways -- and at very high levels you will want to, but to train yourself up faster, concentrate on one sort of fighting. So if you are the martial artist, don't put points into firearms, and if you are the shooter than you want 3 points in brawling for defence, and then stop worrying about it. Get a 2 job computer and a Strumwhelger M2 and pair of taser gloves. Go hire your buddy. Better yet, hire 2 as one often dies early. If you can find one of these in an encounter, it saves a ton of cash. Train like mad doing low level jobs for Streets, Los V. Stay the hell out of Yakuza land until the BS patrols stop slumming there. (They are leaving the robots at home now, so killing them is possible.) Stay out of BS, KH and corps lands. You and your buddy must aim for 7 AP as your first priority, however it is fastest to get there. Then -- one of you trains dex and int (and int related skills) and the other trains dex and per (and per related skills). Both of you want athletics of 5, so buy that even at 2 or 3 times the going rate. Get some stealth, too. You can hack for cash if you like. If you do not like, get King's taxi chip from Cavas ladder, and then get in good with the Streets, and take jobs from their VIP rooms to kill in Oxland. (The new job system may mean that this step needs to be rethought soon.) Get Cognac's chip. Raise cash so you can afford a mk251 bounty for your Sniper, as it will be his or her job to handle the drones for you. Buy hard armour when you can afford it. Buy Kraken suits and nano-ready medkits when you can afford that. A 4-job computer is a very nice thing to have, but the pricier ones with the large rating are for matrix rats, so only spend cash on that if you want to spend time hacking. It is very risky to travel in BS and KH land until you have a way to deal with Drones, and hard armour. so stay away until then. And buy Dermal Implants before you start making BS and KH jobs a regular part of your life. It is ok, for instance, to sneak into Lion and the Harpy from Old Kenmore. That practically never gets you killed. But if you let the Rodent talk you into taking jobs to the Old Union Hall, before you are ready with your drone policy, you will end up a corpse in pretty short order. After this point -- well, it where all the role playing cuts in. What sort of jobs do you want to do, for whom, against whom, etc. But if the robots don't kill you you will eventually get to the point where you can kill anything. Retire that knight and start one that roleplays differently.
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:09:08 GMT -5
Also
STOP LOOTING CORPSES.
The heat isn't worth the payout. Use Stealth exit.
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Post by robertmarkbram on Feb 1, 2014 19:14:10 GMT -5
Love this detailed answer, thanks grävling! Steps away from corpse with sheepish look.. What?? I wasn't touching it!
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:16:21 GMT -5
Also, remember that there are different ways to play this game. Fallen doesn't put nearly as much into AP, and favours gunslinger runners, whom I think aren't worth the cost to taxi them from place to place. To each his or her own, but since you asked ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 19:26:11 GMT -5
Thank you Gravling. You dedicate so much time and energy, into helping out myself and other forum members. It's appreciated, greatly.
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:27:20 GMT -5
You are all most welcome. Have fun.
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Post by fallen on Feb 1, 2014 19:32:23 GMT -5
I also don't like Taxis Call me crazy, they have a massive negative impact on my XP gain rate.
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Post by robertmarkbram on Feb 1, 2014 19:33:46 GMT -5
I also don't like Taxis Call me crazy, they have a massive negative impact on my XP gain rate. How is that?
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Post by fallen on Feb 1, 2014 19:35:21 GMT -5
robertmarkbram - if you don't walk, you don't get Encounters, and if you have a team built to ace all the Encounters, you can make a phenomenal amount of XP while walking between jobs.
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:36:25 GMT -5
I also don't like Taxis Call me crazy, they have a massive negative impact on my XP gain rate. Great point. Hard on your ability to gain rep, too, as they waste a lot of time. And, if you never get the low level fights because you were in taxis all the time, when you finally get a fight it will be tougher (as you have more XP) and if you haven't learned how to fight, you end up dead.
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Post by grävling on Feb 1, 2014 19:40:11 GMT -5
robertmarkbram - if you don't walk, you don't get Encounters, and if you have a team built to ace all the Encounters, you can make a phenomenal amount of XP while walking between jobs. Even if you haven't built a team this way, you will still get more XP from encounters than from the jobs you accept, if you walk everywhere or mostly everywhere. But a heat-tolerant taxi driver (King, Jennings) is still great for getting the heck out of a place that hates you and back to a zone controlled by some faction that loves you. Which is why you should not waste them (well, them both if you have 2) on routine tasks.
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Post by fallen on Feb 1, 2014 19:46:36 GMT -5
grävling - in total agreement - its critical to have them in your back pocket, but not so good to use them all the time.
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