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Post by En1gma on Apr 18, 2015 18:41:38 GMT -5
Agreed. If we can lay claim, perhaps waiting for a new colony module, then we should indeed take a higher quality system next.
Had it been our first colony......
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Post by En1gma on Apr 20, 2015 15:19:01 GMT -5
I propose that we set up a template for New Colony Build Order. To be known as NCBO, it would provide Templar Commander CdrPlatypus with consistent goals for construction so that he doesn't need to ask us each time we colonize. Of course this is completely modular, and may change once we research new buildings, but for new colonies, I propose that: 1- A Factory be subsidized first and foremost. 2a- Once said Factory has been completed, work on building Hab units to level out population growth. 2b- Should a critical level of population occur during Factory construction, Hab units may be built until population levels out, then construction on the Factory will be completed. 3- Upon completion of the first factory, and assuming population is under curtail, 1-2 Mines must be built to offset planetary costs. Any other thoughts?
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Post by Cory Trese on Apr 20, 2015 15:36:44 GMT -5
I love these threads =)
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Post by lixxx235 on Apr 20, 2015 20:35:45 GMT -5
En1gma: I believe that is three votes for your proposal, an absolute majority, so feel free to transmit to the High Templar as the will of Alta Mesa. Edit: I'll just let the High Templar know, actually. Cory Trese: Great to see you! I haven't been on in a while, hope things are well.
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Post by lixxx235 on Apr 21, 2015 11:38:55 GMT -5
i) Proposed, that the High Templar be requested to use numbers instead of names for labeling star systems on map reports. ii) Proposed, that the NCBO be modified to the following: iii) Proposed, that Alta Mesa is not currently requesting territory or expansion in this turn cycle, and requests that Alta Mesa Prime continue to develop as rapidly as possible, including spice, exchanges, and mines. En1gma: how does it look now? bookworm21: I specifically put in the term "at the discretion of the High Templar". Hopefully that should be good enough. dragolord: Honorable delegate, you have not yet voiced your opinion or voted on this proposal. What say you?
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Post by En1gma on Apr 21, 2015 12:09:11 GMT -5
Proposal ii) lixxx235, To ensure that our income is static at the beginning, it is still my opinion that we first build mines. Trade Points are notoriously inconsistent, and we need to make sure that our colony's income is not dependent on the whims of the political climate. Once we build at least two mines, we can begin adding TP, but not until then, respectfully. Proposal iii) I agree that we should continue strengthening our Prime. Our fledgling colony will be able to grow well, and until Alta Mesa Prime has a strong economy and Construction base, we should hold off on expansion.
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Post by bookworm21 on Apr 21, 2015 16:20:08 GMT -5
To: En1gma dragolord lixxx235Cc: Proposal iii) I agree that we should continue strengthening our Prime. Our fledgling colony will be able to grow well, and until Alta Mesa Prime has a strong economy and Construction base, we should hold off on expansion. Continuing to strengthen our two existing colonies is a sound plan, especially as we got good rolls or BL. With regards to minerals vs Trade, I think that although minerals are a more stable fom of income, the very volatility of TP may well work in our favour. I am not aware of the current political situation, but it may be worth adding an exchange after the first new mine. Of course, I mainly use this for low quality worlds, so as we are not particularly quality-focused mines may be the better option.
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Post by En1gma on Apr 22, 2015 21:06:24 GMT -5
My esteemed colleagues: It seems that our Prime is well poised to become a juggernaut in terms of construction. 6 CP is well ahead of the curve, and we can freely nation build unneeded for the time being. It is my opinion that we continue to build the latest in researched buildings, so that we can lead the way for our fellow factions.
From Templar Command:
*Research report* Our scientists and engineers have come together to unlock HAB 2 (planetary construction 4)
They inform me that the following options are now available for research, but they can only work on one project at a time. We do not have enough budget to afford them more staff. "Seriously get off my back! I can't afford to fund you a new lab assistant you'll just have to take an unpaid intern for Shulan's sake I can barely afford your teams coffee! It amounts to half your budget!" Research Options: Starship Construction 2, Faction Politics 3 (exchange 2 and trade alliance), Planetary Defense 1 (FDF) , Space Colonization 1 (Starport 4), Faction Techs 1 (Alta, Mok, or Zenrin)
It is my opinion that we begin research on new and improved Colony Modules. Space Colonization 1 will allow us to recover lost tempo once we begin further expansion. Once we research this, we should acquiesce the other factions when it comes to what they want. When it is time to build our Star Forges, we will want the leverage of being agreeable in the Assembly.
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Post by bookworm21 on Apr 23, 2015 7:36:35 GMT -5
I agree with your proposal for research. Better colony modules will be vital for ensuring that any new colonies get off the ground as soon as possible.
6CP is certainly a substantial capability, I will convey our thanks to our hard-working population.
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Post by lixxx235 on Apr 23, 2015 18:29:13 GMT -5
I'd like to propose the following misc. proposal for consideration to protect everyone's (but especially our) interests:
Proposed, that the following resolution be proposed by Alta Mesa for consideration by the Council of Great Clans to be adopted by the High Templar at the approval of a majority of the Great Clans (i.e. two of three, or Alta Mesa and one more):
Edit: Also, I personally would be fine with any colony the High Templar would choose to assign to us.
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Post by En1gma on Apr 25, 2015 6:19:01 GMT -5
@rearick dragolord bookworm21 lixxx235Your presence is requested so that we may debate our research path. Mok wishes to rush Colonization modules and begin researching Mok 1, a process which would take nearly a year in total. sheff believes that the Zenrin wish to push for Starship tech so that we may have more powerful ships at our disposal. We must discuss this matter, and it is urgent that we do so, lest I be forced to make a decision in the absence of the council.
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Post by bookworm21 on Apr 25, 2015 6:22:50 GMT -5
Bear with, just having lunch...
Back in 20mins
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Post by sheff on Apr 25, 2015 7:07:37 GMT -5
Honorable Members of Alta Mesa, greetings.
For the record, I merely table a suggestion since no others were there on the table.
And if possible, I wish to have your support of the addendum motion to your proposal about subsidizing building. Do you think that makes sense?
May all your days be full, and leave you old wrinkled and full of rattling and clanking. Just like your money purse.
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Post by bookworm21 on Apr 25, 2015 7:26:05 GMT -5
To: En1gma dragolord lixxx235Cc: sheff ntsheepApologies that my recess took longer than I expected. Anyway, I have been able to review the existing proposals, and feel that a stronger research base should be in place before we commit to such a long project as any of the faction techs. I agree that newer colonisation modules should be the way forward for our research, as the improved star ports we will have available will be extremely beneficial to the low-quality systems of Clan Moluklumne, as well as kick-starting the development of newer colonies to increase our research output. I can understand Brutus Aurelius 's concerns over the state of our fleet technologies, but I feel that it would be more productive to focus on either Fighters or Cruisers, and researching their techs instead of rushing to StarCon4. As we have yet to encounter the xeno, I feel that at this point we are better focussing our R&D on domestic improvements.
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Post by bookworm21 on Apr 25, 2015 7:30:40 GMT -5
Honorable Members of Alta Mesa, greetings. For the record, I merely table a suggestion since no others were there on the table. And if possible, I wish to have your support of the addendum motion to your proposal about subsidizing building. Do you think that makes sense? May all your days be full, and leave you old wrinkled and full of rattling and clanking. Just like your money purse. Speaking personally, I disagree with the need to automatically subsidise habs for new colonies, without a pressing population problem. I am fine with the subsiding of factories, but feel that extra habs are just going to spend money that we may need elsewhere. Part of this problem, at least, will be eliminated if we follow the SpaCol research path, as upgraded colony modules will have Habs and CP to spare.
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