Moar Upgrades!

[redartrats]

Jun 22, 2016 15:50:40 GMT -5 Cory Trese said:

I love the idea of an upgrade that just decreases all stats by 33%. People would love it

Hmmm. The Pink Polka-dot Designer Hull Exterior Paint Job Upgrade: coats the exterior of your hull with highly-reflective nano-paint with an attractive pink polka-dot pattern.
- Increased ship signature (it reflects all sorts of signals like a beacon saying "shoot me")
- Increased chances of hostile encounters (they all hate you when they see you)
- Increased chances of Alien encounters (the nano-paint is derived from illegal Narv chemical warfare tech)
- Chance of spontaneous morale loss in deep space (your crew can't stand the shame)
- Penalty to all landing operations (the nano-paint interferes with the ship's navigational equipment and makes engines behave erratically)
- Increased fuel consumption in deep space (the Narv tech in the paint causes energy leakage)
- Lower contract prices (nobody takes you seriously)
- Higher buying prices and lower selling prices at the exchange (nobody takes you seriously)
- Increased chances of ice collection accidents (crew get distracted by the utterly ugly ship exterior and make slip-ups)
- Slight penalty to engine efficiency (the nano-paint off-gasses Narv chemical warfare agents that poison the core reactor in your engines)
- Decreased chances of officers being available for hire (nobody wants to work for you)
- Reduced number of recruitable crew in spice hall (nobody wants to work for you)
- Increased prices of hiring officers (nobody wants to work for you unless the price is high enough)
- Reduces officer bonuses by 15% (they are too ashamed to work efficiently)
- Halves all reputation gains (nobody wants to be associated with you)
- Doubles all reputation losses (the faster they dissociate themselves from you, the better they feel)
- Doubles the negative effects of carrying Artifacts in deep space (bad interaction of paint with narv tech)
- Reduces armor and hull by 15% (the paint weakens your hull as a side-effect)
- Decreases torp/guns accuracy (the narv tech in the paint interferes with targeting systems and projectile trajectory as they leave the ship)
- Increased prices of all repairs/upgrades at star dock (the mechanics see you as totally naïve and easy to swindle, plus they are too ashamed to work on the ship)

Sounds like a completely raw deal, but there is ONE advantage:
- Increased resistance to boarding (nobody wants to board you!!!!)

[Zer0Winds]

Jun 22, 2016 19:12:00 GMT -5 redartrats said:

Jun 22, 2016 15:50:40 GMT -5 Cory Trese said:

I love the idea of an upgrade that just decreases all stats by 33%. People would love it

Hmmm. The Pink Polka-dot Designer Hull Exterior Paint Job Upgrade: coats the exterior of your hull with highly-reflective nano-paint with an attractive pink polka-dot pattern.
- Increased ship signature (it reflects all sorts of signals like a beacon saying "shoot me")
- Increased chances of hostile encounters (they all hate you when they see you)
- Increased chances of Alien encounters (the nano-paint is derived from illegal Narv chemical warfare tech)
- Chance of spontaneous morale loss in deep space (your crew can't stand the shame)
- Penalty to all landing operations (the nano-paint interferes with the ship's navigational equipment and makes engines behave erratically)
- Increased fuel consumption in deep space (the Narv tech in the paint causes energy leakage)
- Lower contract prices (nobody takes you seriously)
- Higher buying prices and lower selling prices at the exchange (nobody takes you seriously)
- Increased chances of ice collection accidents (crew get distracted by the utterly ugly ship exterior and make slip-ups)
- Slight penalty to engine efficiency (the nano-paint off-gasses Narv chemical warfare agents that poison the core reactor in your engines)
- Decreased chances of officers being available for hire (nobody wants to work for you)
- Reduced number of recruitable crew in spice hall (nobody wants to work for you)
- Increased prices of hiring officers (nobody wants to work for you unless the price is high enough)
- Reduces officer bonuses by 15% (they are too ashamed to work efficiently)
- Halves all reputation gains (nobody wants to be associated with you)
- Doubles all reputation losses (the faster they dissociate themselves from you, the better they feel)
- Doubles the negative effects of carrying Artifacts in deep space (bad interaction of paint with narv tech)
- Reduces armor and hull by 15% (the paint weakens your hull as a side-effect)
- Decreases torp/guns accuracy (the narv tech in the paint interferes with targeting systems and projectile trajectory as they leave the ship)
- Increased prices of all repairs/upgrades at star dock (the mechanics see you as totally naïve and easy to swindle, plus they are too ashamed to work on the ship)

Sounds like a completely raw deal, but there is ONE advantage:
- Increased resistance to boarding (nobody wants to board you!!!!)

Yes. Cory, do it. Add that. People would buy it. Using real money... probably.

[athios]

Luxury Cabins (interior)
Lush cabin quarters and VIP treatment for officers and guests.
+ increases Passenger contract pay
+ decreases upfront recruitment cost for new officers
+ 5% boost to officer bonuses (only applies when there are Luxury Rations on board)
- consumes Luxury Rations at 0.5 unit per week
- crew morale loss (as they get jealous), maybe triggered at a set interval (1 point every 8 weeks) as long as officer boost is in effect

Recreation Hall (interior)
A dedicated chamber filled with traditional and high-tech activities for crew and guests to unwind.
+ increases Passenger contract pay
+ inhibits crew morale loss
- decreases crew combat efficiency (they become a lazy group of pansies)

Modular Sail Retrofit (propulsion)
Modular array system that allows crew to manage minor repairs by swapping out damaged sections of sails. Stacks with Mechanic bonuses.
+ regular crew can perform limited repairs while in flight (e.g. random repairs mid-flight, like Mechanic)
- restores max 3 Sail points and no more, until you get a proper Star Dock repair to resupply (Mechanic removes this limitation)
- cannot repair Sails to 100%, i.e. the last Sail point cannot be repaired (Mechanic removes this limitation)

Spiked Armor (armament)
Aftermarket fortified plating specifically designed for piercing enemy hulls.
+ major bonus to ram attack
+ increase resistance to ram  or  +2 armor

Tractor Beam (armament)
+ bonus to player closing actions
+ penalty to enemy retreat actions 
- while active (whenever player advances or enemy retreats), increases success of enemy Torps as they can send a Torp into the beam

Meditation Chamber (interior)
+ small chance to double your gains when investing in stats/skills
e.g. You invest XP as usual, but statistic increases by 2 points instead of 1. Yes, this might not be possible due to game code, and might be game breaking.
This is kind of similar to but slightly different from starfixer's Training Room.

[poryg]

Jun 23, 2016 1:21:25 GMT -5 athios said:

Meditation Chamber (interior)
+ small chance to double your gains when investing in stats/skills
e.g. You invest XP as usual, but statistic increases by 2 points instead of 1. Yes, this might not be possible due to game code, and might be game breaking.
This is kind of similar to but slightly different from starfixer's Training Room.

This would have broken the game, since if the chance was too huge, you would be receiving too much free xp if I say it like this. Also, there could be troubles with a skill exceeding a stat.

[redartrats]

Jun 23, 2016 1:21:25 GMT -5 athios said:

[...]
Recreation Hall (interior)
A dedicated chamber filled with traditional and high-tech activities for crew and guests to unwind.
+ increases Passenger contract pay
+ inhibits crew morale loss
- decreases crew combat efficiency (they become a lazy group of pansies)

+ increases availability of crew for hire in spice hall (they all want the cushy job!)
- higher chance of morale loss in combat (they hate being interrupted from their entertainment!)

[...]
Spiked Armor (armament)
Aftermarket fortified plating specifically designed for piercing enemy hulls.
+ major bonus to ram attack
+ increase resistance to ram  or  +2 armor

I like this idea. But I don't like upgrades that have no drawbacks, so what about:
- major ship signature increase (people can recognize you from a distance).

Tractor Beam (armament)
+ bonus to player closing actions
+ penalty to enemy retreat actions 
- while active (whenever player advances or enemy retreats), increases success of enemy Torps as they can send a Torp into the beam
[...]

+ Major landing bonus on Gloomhorn [31,22], because all the farmers love you

[resistor]

athios 's tractor beam seems particularly interesting.

[redartrats]

Jun 23, 2016 12:22:10 GMT -5 redartrats said:

Jun 23, 2016 1:21:25 GMT -5 athios said:

[...]
Tractor Beam (armament)
+ bonus to player closing actions
+ penalty to enemy retreat actions 
- while active (whenever player advances or enemy retreats), increases success of enemy Torps as they can send a Torp into the beam
[...]

+ Major landing bonus on Gloomhorn [31,22], because all the farmers love you

Sorry, I meant Leiwin. Gloomhorn is where the priests are... Leiwin is where the cattle are.

[resistor]

Aft Gun Batteries! +5 Guns and slight bonus to accuracy after retreating action.

[Deleted]

What about an upgrade... that improves other upgrades!!!

[Darth Cthoras]

Jul 23, 2016 22:52:01 GMT -5 @starfixer said:

What about an upgrade... that improves other upgrades!!!

Let's take this to eleven and reach the logical pinnacle: upgrades that improve upgrade upgrades!!!

[resistor]

Maybe we should make an upgrade that generates ideas for new upgrades. And make sure it's compatible with upgrade upgrades.

[Darth Cthoras]

Song-Seeking Torp Upgrade. Available in normal and extra hate.

[Zer0Winds]

A non replaceable internal upgrade that increases the effectiveness of internal upgrades! Amazing(ly useless)!

[poryg]

Jul 25, 2016 3:18:47 GMT -5 Zer0Winds said:

A non replaceable internal upgrade that increases the effectiveness of internal upgrades! Amazing(ly useless)!

An irreplaceable
Well, it's not that useless, for example increasing null field generator by 30%,...

[Cory Trese]

Lots of great ideas!