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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 16:38:29 GMT -5
It has already had a whole week dedicated to how it is the best Talent in the game lol. Realized this could be easily misinterpreted. Cory and I talk about this often, how one of the most fascinating aspects of Heroes is how the best / worst Talent is so hotly debated and the trends come and go. I remember a whole week where a series of threads were going about how PS was overpowered. In terms of feedback we receive over Facebook, email and PMs, the best/worst Talent discussion is in the top three after bug reporting. For Torrent of Steel, I've received 2 emails so far after we changed saying basically, "good try, but you have to make it better or no one will ever use it." I got one email after the range fix that said include the claim that we ruined the talent forever. For me, the beauty of that game is that no Talent stands on its own, and direct comparisons don't do the complexity of the trade-offs justice. The best / worst discussion is one of my favorites. Thanks for the feedback!
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Post by CdrPlatypus on Mar 26, 2016 16:42:52 GMT -5
fallen When it comes to best talent in the game EA 10 is till my favorite, nothing shuts down a battlefield like that.
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 16:44:59 GMT -5
fallen When it comes to best talent in the game EA 10 is till my favorite, nothing shuts down a battlefield like that. I am not sure that there is a more consistent way to get big -AP than EA 10. It is the true power
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 16:45:48 GMT -5
p.s. One last note about ToS. I think xdesperado you were the one who reported the bug that it can take enemies to 0 AP. So, if you get it into the -2 AP range, it is way over powered right now. It is making lots of enemies stand around stupid for a turn (Ratkin archers, etc). That is fixed for next.
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Post by wascalwywabbit on Mar 26, 2016 16:53:25 GMT -5
fallen When it comes to best talent in the game EA 10 is till my favorite, nothing shuts down a battlefield like that. I am not sure that there is a more consistent way to get big -AP than EA 10. It is the true power FF 10?
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Post by xdesperado on Mar 26, 2016 16:53:46 GMT -5
p.s. One last note about ToS. I think xdesperado you were the one who reported the bug that it can take enemies to 0 AP. So, if you get it into the -2 AP range, it is way over powered right now. It is making lots of enemies stand around stupid for a turn (Ratkin archers, etc). That is fixed for next. Lol wasn't me, I've never seen ToS or any other talent reduce an enemy to 0 AP, although I've seen plenty of enemies just stand around looking dumb for turns on end. Can get frustrating at times when you have AoE attacks yet the enemies insist on coming at your party one or two at a time instead of making an all out rush. Or worse refuse to move/attack at all forcing you to move all over to find them and possibly triggering additional mobs.
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 17:01:00 GMT -5
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Post by CdrPlatypus on Mar 26, 2016 19:30:14 GMT -5
I am not sure that there is a more consistent way to get big -AP than EA 10. It is the true power FF 10? EA can be cast 3x in a turn and also reduces acc ;p
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Post by En1gma on Mar 26, 2016 19:43:29 GMT -5
I still don't think I've ever taken EA so the way to 10. Though thinking about it I don't know why I haven't-- I guess I forgot it was only 2AP and could neuter literally everything on the battlefield in a single turn.
I have some thinking to do about my next group.
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Post by fallen on Mar 26, 2016 21:10:17 GMT -5
I still don't think I've ever taken EA so the way to 10. Though thinking about it I don't know why I haven't-- I guess I forgot it was only 2AP and could neuter literally everything on the battlefield in a single turn. I have some thinking to do about my next group. It is worth trying for sure. Flash Freeze is mighty as well at 10, going up to that huge AoE tier. Either one is very reliable, very powerful way to crush an enemy's offense at range, before they have a real shot at getting close and scoring big hits.
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ToS vs PS
Mar 26, 2016 23:55:28 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by wascalwywabbit on Mar 26, 2016 23:55:28 GMT -5
EA can be cast 3x in a turn and also reduces acc ;p I know, but ff has a bigger AoE, covering a similar number of tiles in its 2 casts (only 1 tile less, but 2/3 the sp) and curses dodge harder... They are both up there for most powerful ap removal.
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