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Post by fallen on May 10, 2017 17:46:10 GMT -5
@johnrobison has been making and publishing some amazing data tables. I've been following him around trying to convert them into fully data-driven versions on the WIKI. Here is the latest example: startraders.gamepedia.com/Contact_ServicesWe'd love to hear your ideas for types of data tables you'd like to see. |
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Post by athios on May 10, 2017 19:11:06 GMT -5
Settlement Supply/Demand ranges for each Cargo type  Although I understand this might grow to be unmanageable once further cargo types are added... the table would be enormous! |
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Post by grävling on May 10, 2017 22:46:26 GMT -5
Settlement Supply/Demand ranges for each Cargo type Although I understand this might grow to be unmanageable once further cargo types are added... the table would be enormous! When you make this, I want a column for the illegality level of the good. Though of course, where I really want this is in the game, especially at the 'buy' market screen, so I can stop loading up on goods that are very hard to find legal buyers for. |
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Post by fallen on May 10, 2017 22:55:48 GMT -5
athios - thanks for the great suggestion. This table is on our list. Hope we can keep the suggestions on point about WIKI tables!
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Post by athios on May 10, 2017 23:24:18 GMT -5
I know they aren't fully implemented yet, but you can add this to the list. At some point I'd like a table for Contact Traits, please.
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Post by grävling on May 10, 2017 23:38:18 GMT -5
I want a table for ship weapons that makes it easier to compare what various sorts of the same type do. Or different sorts that work at the same range. Right now I am just buying the biggest number there is for a weapon of the sort that I want, and I think this is a mistake. But right now making comparisons are hard, partly because I don't know what 'void damage' really is, and why I might prefer to give it rather than 'radiation damage' or something else, but also because you cannot compare things side by side. *I want to blast my enemies at range 4 -- what are my options* is rather hard to ask, right now.
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Post by athios on May 11, 2017 0:04:44 GMT -5
Oh, on that topic, we need a table for crew combat weapons, especially since the accuracy values are currently hidden.
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Post by grävling on May 11, 2017 0:07:23 GMT -5
And I want a list of all the different Xeno Artifacts you can dig up, and what they are worth, with notes on whether any particular sort of settlement will pay more for each particular sort of artifact.
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Post by John Robinson on May 11, 2017 18:49:35 GMT -5
Add a grid view button to the current wiki ships listI'm betting 2 years from now there will be several hundred ships if not a thousand or more. The pictures are absolutely Beautiful and must never be discarded. Adding a grid view option/toggle at the top of the screen would be very useful with this Niagara falls of data. If you are a Netflix user they have this as an option so you don't have to scroll through all the color thumbnails of the movies, and the grid view provides sort options. Ascending, Descending Sort columns: If I wanted to see all the ships of the same price those would be listed together etc. I don't think all of these columns should be sort-able. The dice pools are not really necessary to sort, because if you want the ship that's what you get. Speed and Agility are one of the first things I'd be sorting on. Whatever you think works, works for me. Sample Grid View: Default display should be by Ship name in Alphabetical Order:Put a forward toggle in the the components column | Ship | Cost | Mass | Hull | Speed | Agility | Fuel | Cost J/M/C | Cargo | Arm | Shlds | Officers | Crew | Pilot | Nav | Ops | Elect | Gun | Components | | Paladin Cruiser | 260,000 | 4150/5000 | 1500 | 20 | 20 | 115 | 22/2/12 | 50 | 7 | 6 | 4/5 | 20/30 | 11 | 16 | 34 | 10 | 29 | toggle button | | Juror Class |
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Each ship has a toggle forward button or link to it's unique components list: Components forward toggl routes to this table for the Paladin Cruiser, and returns again to the ships table. When I left click on the components toggle I would like to see the Paladin's components listed by compartment size in alphabetical order. Followed by mass, and function. Size, Mass and Function: are automatic downloads of the descriptive information you see in the upgrade screen in a Starport. Leave off the Soak requirements, the Captain will be looking at these already when upgrading at the Starport. It's a waste of wiki screen space. | Small | Hellfire Torpedo lvl(1) | 75 | 2 Reactor, Dmg 60 to 100 +50 Void, 15% Crit, +30% Cripple, +4 Acc, Range 4-5 (Best at 5) | | Small | Hellfire Torpedo |
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| | Small | Imperator PC-1 lvl(1) Autocannon | 75 | 2 Reactor, Dmg 116 to 136 +22 Radiation, +15% Crit, +40% Cripple +1 Acc Range 2-4 (Best at 3) | | Small | Mass Dampner 1 | -150 | Defensive | | Small | Officer Cabin | 75 | Living Space +1 Officer | | Small | Officer Cabin | 75 |
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| | Small | Phoenix Lance lvl(1) | 75 | 2 Reactor, Dmg 100 to 140 +20 Radiation, +15% Critt, +55% Cripple, +2 Acc Range 1-3 (Best at 2) | | Small | Valient Autocannon | 75 | 1 Reactor 65 - 115 Dmg, 5% Crit, 30% Cripple, Range 1-2 (best at 1) | | Small | Valient Autocannon |
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| | Medium | Archangel Railgun lvl(2) | 75 | 3 Reactor, Damage 120 to 140 +84 Void, +20 Radiation, +10% Critical 45% Cripple +4 Acc Range 2 -4 (best at 3) | | Medium | Barracks 3 | 400 | Living Space: Quarters +24 Crew | | Medium | Bridge | 300 | Houses +1 Officer | | Medium | Hyperwarp Drive 3 | 325 |
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Post by Officer Genious on May 11, 2017 19:28:20 GMT -5
I should note that on the Contacts page, the ads are blocking me from seeing the farthest column. Is there a way around this?
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Post by John Robinson on May 20, 2017 22:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by fallen on May 21, 2017 15:09:23 GMT -5
I should note that on the Contacts page, the ads are blocking me from seeing the farthest column. Is there a way around this? Can you try scrolling to the right? |
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Post by John Robinson on May 21, 2017 17:39:05 GMT -5
fallen Template for table I would like to see; An alternative to figuring out how to display job skills side by side for a wiki table. Simple now that the primary/secondary skill concept has been dropped. Display all Jobs not just Captains. This would be helpful if I was trying to decide how heavy I wanted to go on etechs or pilots etc. Each Skill(1,2,3) column should be sort-able. For example I hit the sort arrow for Bounty Hunter's skill 1 "Rifles", I would expect to see any other jobs using rifles listed. (Soldier) It would also be simple to add new jobs like "Sniper" when implemented. Each entry lists the 3 skills the job uses not the entire list. I'm building a small table right now , limited to the job types I'm going to use in a new team build. | Job | Skill 1 | Skill 2 | Skill 3 | | Bounty Hunter | Rifles | Evasion | Navigation | | Commander | Tactics | Intimidation | Command | | Crew Dog | Ship Ops | Gunnery | Repair | | Diplomat |
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Post by fallen on May 22, 2017 19:10:29 GMT -5
fallen Template for table I would like to see; An alternative to figuring out how to display job skills side by side for a wiki table. Simple now that the primary/secondary skill concept has been dropped. It will take some time to get all the wishes in this thread granted, but we are going to keep chipping away at it. This one jumped out to me as important immediately -- now available on Jobs page: startraders.gamepedia.com/Jobs |
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Post by John Robinson on May 22, 2017 19:29:09 GMT -5
fallen Template for table I would like to see; An alternative to figuring out how to display job skills side by side for a wiki table. Simple now that the primary/secondary skill concept has been dropped. It will take some time to get all the wishes in this thread granted, but we are going to keep chipping away at it. This one jumped out to me as important immediately -- now available on Jobs page: startraders.gamepedia.com/Jobs"Stupendous another fine example of quality". Zark Meatbreath Zeno times. Looks great! Thank You, energizer bunny.  P.S. Love the way you got rid of the advertisement truncating the skills table. |
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