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Post by resistor on Jul 21, 2018 22:52:56 GMT -5
We must strengthen our core before we attempt any more colony\invasion runs into xeno held territory I think. As for how this is done, I leave that to you fellows. I'm just ditch digger. I agree with the Javat delegate. We need a stronger economy to launch and invasion of even the closer cluster. We should focus on an economic buildup and seize every available colony world in the core cluster. We should focus on defending ourselves for now. It may lead to more Xeno colonies to deal with in the future, but to invade now would bankrupt us. I meant to ask where we should prepare to invade after we have secured the Core and built up an appropriate level of economic strength to challenge the other areas. Apologies if I was unclear.
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Jul 23, 2018 12:11:34 GMT -5
We should put into the cluster with the simpler logistics. Distance will kill us if we try to invade too far and stretch our fuel haulers too thin.
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Post by hissrad on Jul 24, 2018 19:04:36 GMT -5
At this point, I'd say ignore the clusters and focus on trying to hold back the Xenos coming in from the north. If we can, use our current ships to stall them until we can put out some new ships.
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Post by lordpax on Jul 25, 2018 16:13:47 GMT -5
If I may present my input for examination,
We have un-inhabited stars close to the core cluster. I say we ignore the xeno infested systems for now, and focus on defense, improving the economies of our already established star systems, and spreading to stars close by before we launch an attack convoy for the offensive.
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Post by Tomas of Moklumnue on Jul 25, 2018 18:33:10 GMT -5
If I may present my input for examination, We have un-inhabited stars close to the core cluster. I say we ignore the xeno infested systems for now, and focus on defense, improving the economies of our already established star systems, and spreading to stars close by before we launch an attack convoy for the offensive. You may be on to something. Instead of lauching a risky assault and hope for the best, we should focus on improving our situation first: more economic stability, income and better technology, to make sure we can attack them and defend our borders simultaneously.
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Post by lordpax on Jul 25, 2018 20:19:22 GMT -5
Also, when it comes to defense, we need to attack the world killer ships first. It needs to be our priority above everything else. If we are being attacked, and they have a huge amount of attack ships it won't matter if they can't attack our planets. If we have to sacrifice our fleet to kill the world killer ships, so be it. We can just synchronize the production of ships galaxy wide to have enough fire power at one time to finish off the attack fleet.
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Post by resistor on Jul 28, 2018 16:40:43 GMT -5
Event Log:
7.43 AE The Nyktos establish a new colony where Slayer's Folly was destroyed. The area becomes known as "Nasmopra".
7.47 AE The first Superbus Vale invasion ships have been constructed. A successful Trade Meeting starts a Trade Route between Cadar and Moklumnue. Mok officials were particularly interested in importing metals from Cadar that Javat Prime taxes heavily.
7.48 AE Cadar founds a colony in the Druater system, which is to the West of Moklumnue space.
?.?? AE Moklumnue founds a colony in the Afcrone system, located to the South of its other systems.
8.7 AE After over two-and-a-half years, the Spy Battle between Javat and Moklumnue ends.
8.9 AE A Spy Battle starts between Javat and Cadar.
8.13 AE Nasmopra, once known as Slayer's Folly, has been colonized by Cadar after being purged of its xeno infestation, but it only has 1 Quality left.
8.14 AE Nasmopra has been sold to Independents.
8.16 AE A Nyktos colony ship slipped behind the Cadarian fleet, and raced towards the Achorth system. Moklumnue colonizes Achorth one week before the Nyktos could reach it.
8.18 AE The Nyktos Seihiri colony has been purged. Cadar's Nasmopra colony has been destroyed, as a Nyktos world killer came up to it long before a defensive upgrade could be constructed.
8.?? AE Nasmopra has been resettled by Cadar. This time they are calling the system Slayer's Folly again, and the destruction of the colony has reset its Quality and Mineral ratings. The third time is the charm, right?
8.26 AE Javat colonizes Seihiri.
8.?? AE Bathore, the first and last of the hated Nytkos colonies in the Core, has been purged.
8.34 AE Bathore has been colonized by Cadar.
8.42 AE Star traders report reduced Nyktos activity.
8.46 AE Javat re-colonizes Kyzan Incendium.
9.3 AE The Trade Route between Cadar and Moklumnue has been replaced by a Trade Alliance, raising income to over one-thousand credits every turn. Cadarian officials are particularly excited over importing more Moklumnue weapon components. (There is a danger here because when Trade Alliances end there is a significant chance they will be replaced with a Trade Embargo or Trade War.)
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Post by ntsheep on Jul 28, 2018 17:02:47 GMT -5
Mostly good news there. At least I can go back to digging without much worries. Oh by the way, can I request a new set of canaries. Bob ate chili again and the last batch of birds sadly didn't make it.
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Post by Tomas of Moklumnue on Jul 28, 2018 18:39:17 GMT -5
So we finally managed to banish the Xeno from the Core region? Excellent. Does thus mean we should be turning our eyes to the Belt to purge more stars? Or should we instead play on the defense and continue to reinforce our systems and economy?
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Post by resistor on Jul 28, 2018 18:46:33 GMT -5
"We, I mean the Javat fleet and my crew, we detected a Nyktos world killer six AU West of G'vorcia. We tried intercepting, but the monster flew away like a frightened cat. It makes me unsettled. The Xeno are waiting for something." -Captain of the Templar Defender ship Lupus Hastati, 8.53 AE 9.10 AE Esteemed delegates, last year, our people celebrated the purging of the xeno in the Core Regions, and the Nyktos, feigning utter defeat, have retreated deep into their territory to recover their strength. Our invasion ships are gathered near G'vorcia, at the end of the Shimmering Belt. We are poised to strike at Nyktos worlds once again.
There are three ways to attack the Xenoforms right now. Invading the Ascension Cluster to the North and invading the rest of the Shimmering Belt are the obvious first two options. The third is to go on a rapid bombardment offensive, targeting and annihilating any Xeno world with less than 10 Quality in both regions.
Quadrant Map:Here is the current map of the quadrant: Colony Reports:Technology:If no one proposes a new technology plan, Coordinated Operations 2, Cadar Fleet Operations, Superscale Weapons 3, Advanced Weapons 2, and Starship Construction 9 will be researched in that order. These are the technologies we've researched so far: //OOC Sorry the update has taken so long to get out again. I will be changing the update schedule now. Voting and proposals are now due before 2 PM (GMT -6) Saturday, and I'll probably have the update out at around 8 PM on the same day.
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Post by resistor on Jul 28, 2018 18:55:14 GMT -5
Mostly good news there. At least I can go back to digging without much worries. Oh by the way, can I request a new set of canaries. Bob ate chili again and the last batch of birds sadly didn't make it. Sorry to hear about the canaries. I shall send a request for their replacements to your local Javat lord as soon as I have a moment. So we finally managed to banish the Xeno from the Core region? Excellent. Does thus mean we should be turning our eyes to the Belt to purge more stars? Or should we instead play on the defense and continue to reinforce our systems and economy? I'm not sure what "play on the defense" means in this context. The Nyktos have passive behavior right now, and we have invasion ships on their doorstep. Would there be any advantage in not invading?
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Post by Tomas of Moklumnue on Jul 28, 2018 19:07:05 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right, bad suggestion. After taking another look at the map, we definetely need to keep on attacking. The only question is how. Personally, I think we should ignore the Cluster for now and focus on the Belt to claim more worlds. Once we have the Belt taken and we don't need to fight a war on two fronts, an invasion of Cluster stars becomes viable. Until then, fighting without our home advantage and with an over extended supply line seems too risky.
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Post by sparda4 on Jul 29, 2018 3:28:29 GMT -5
I believe it would be best if we have somsort of countermesure fleet against the violent reaction of the Xeno. As we all know once we invade the creatures will attack relentlessly. And i do agree it would be wise to take atleast a few key positions while we are able.
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Post by resistor on Jul 29, 2018 13:53:51 GMT -5
There are some things I forgot to elaborate on. Military:The Javat and Cadar defense fleets each have one Templar Defender, two Plumbata-class ships (cheap fighters), and one Harrier Interceptor (boarding fighter). These ships seem to be becoming less effective every week, as the xeno continuously upgrade their fleet. We have five Superbus Vale invasion ships. They have proven to be very effective, and, when working together, seem to be able to easily purge xeno systems in approximately four weeks while taking little damage. Economy and Politics:There is currently a Trade Alliance between Cadar and Moklumnue, and a Spy Battle between Javat and Cadar. The Trade Alliance is a great benefit to our economy, but if it ends and becomes a negative conflict then we shall struggle to afford anything. Because of this, we should be wary of building too many new ships, as the maintenance costs could drag us into negative income if a negative conflict develops. //OOC I did say at the beginning that factions would have direct control over their own ships. If the majority of Cadar, for example, want to lend a ship or two to the Javat defense fleet, they can do that. I'd like to slightly amend this by saying invasion ships are considered "Templar ships", in that their actions will be determined by a majority consensus of the factions, rather then just by the faction that made them.
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Post by sparda4 on Jul 29, 2018 14:00:25 GMT -5
Deppending on the situation surrounding the Mok and Javat faction holdings i am not against lending our military strenght if need be. We cannot purge the Xeno threat without co-opreating.
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