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Post by battlelord on Feb 13, 2020 13:20:34 GMT -5
I lost two captains in a row both in the same patern.
First I encounter an alien, I try fighting against them but with little success and the alien gets closer to board the ship. The first hit from getting boarded kills some of my crew and damages my captain, but doesn't kill him. I decide that the odds are against me and the life of my captain is more important and hit surrender with the goal of escaping from the situation in my escape shuttle. But instead of being greeted by the escape shuttle screen, I get the game over one and my captain is dead.
For the first captain I just thought it was a bad roll. He only had 6 health left and the alien was very high level (100+) so I assumed that he just got wounded heavily while escaping and died. However the second captain still had 9 health left and the alien was very low level.
I'm certain of his health since it showed when I got hit in the boarding attack and certain that he had an escape shuttle since he was flying the standard Picky beggar, which has an escape shuttle included from the start.
Can weak aliens really deal 9 damage in one hit? Since that seems a bit unfair. Or does the escape shuttle not work while surrendering to xenos anymore?
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Post by poryg on Feb 13, 2020 13:37:58 GMT -5
Escape shuttle while surrendering does not work. You need to destroy your ship through ramming or sth.
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Post by battlelord on Feb 13, 2020 13:55:34 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it should work. I know that it works against military officers that want to kill you, since I have had that happen to me recently. And I think that I have had it work with aliens too a long time ago, but I'm not entirely sure anymore. Though it would be strange if it doesn't work against aliens but does work against military ships that want to kill you.
I also found this thread that says that surrendering should only give the alien one more hit before the escape shuttle deploys. |
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Post by poryg on Feb 13, 2020 21:02:35 GMT -5
I've lost an alien hunter with 10 health and unbeatable stats thanks to accidental surrender. Escape shuttle did not save me. So I don't think it works anymore.
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 14, 2020 14:58:58 GMT -5
I've lost an alien hunter with 10 health and unbeatable stats thanks to accidental surrender. Escape shuttle did not save me. So I don't think it works anymore. Never saw a bug report, sorry! |
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 14, 2020 14:59:10 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it should work. I know that it works against military officers that want to kill you, since I have had that happen to me recently. And I think that I have had it work with aliens too a long time ago, but I'm not entirely sure anymore. Though it would be strange if it doesn't work against aliens but does work against military ships that want to kill you. I also found this thread that says that surrendering should only give the alien one more hit before the escape shuttle deploys. It does work, yes. |
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Post by battlelord on Feb 14, 2020 16:16:14 GMT -5
I decided to test this situation some more and can confirm that this is not the case. To test it I created a new character, grabbed a null field generator and an escape shuttle and searched around for rumors of xenos. As soon as I spotted a xeno ship I surrendered. Every time my captain died, even though he still had full health and didn't even engage the xeno. So if it should work then surrendering with an escape shuttle against xenos is broken.
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 14, 2020 18:28:50 GMT -5
Good to know. I will try to update the text of the upgrade to note that at some point if possible.
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Post by battlelord on Feb 15, 2020 3:42:13 GMT -5
It's a shame since it means that encountering a xeno with a non-combat captain is a certain death.
But updating the ingame text to tell that it does protect from surrendering against faction ships but not against aliens would probably indeed be the easiest solution, it would avoid misunderstandings like this in the future, without needing too much time since I know you are very busy with the new Cyberknights game and updates for Frontiers.
Thanks for the quick replies.
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 15, 2020 9:08:33 GMT -5
Yeah just don't surrender. I talked to a few long time players -- surrendering is just not the strat. It makes sense after getting the explaination.
Never surrender to the Xeno.
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Post by poryg on Feb 16, 2020 15:02:14 GMT -5
I've lost an alien hunter with 10 health and unbeatable stats thanks to accidental surrender. Escape shuttle did not save me. So I don't think it works anymore. Never saw a bug report, sorry! Well, I thought it was a normal feature  |
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Post by Cory Trese on Feb 17, 2020 21:47:08 GMT -5
And now it is. Still works if you fight to the death.
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