mataeus
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Post by mataeus on Jan 28, 2015 12:58:13 GMT -5
Quick question. The table only goes up to 33 at episode 3 but is supposed to max out at 64. Is that realistic? With no respawning monsters it just seems unlikely we will get 31 levels out of the final episode unless it is enormous. Mind you I will certainly not complain if you tell me that the final episode will really have that much content. I think I could probably live with that but I don't know if my wife can  Anyway the point being when I plan a final build can I really rely on having a level 64 team? Personally, I'd like to see some kind of end-game: So you finish Episode 4, and the story. You're done. Finished. But maybe... Random encounters which take place on a purpose built selected series of maps? Scaled monsters respawn in various dungeons? Bosses respawn to farm XP and cool loot? Perhaps have a new post-game dungeon with lots of floors and it's own high score table, which isn't tied to your difficulty level but gets progressively harder? (high scores could be for example, depth reached, monsters killed etc). Maybe random layouts and spawns in there? I know a lot of the above would be a lot of work. I'm just throwing ideas out there, that's all. I don't expect any / all of them to be implemented  |
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Post by fallen on Jan 28, 2015 15:21:45 GMT -5
mataeus - the end of the game will not be a flat "end, you're done" but will invite you to enter into a replayable set of end-game dungeons to achieve max level, score, and loot.
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Post by John Robinson on Jan 28, 2015 18:54:37 GMT -5
mataeus I have only published the first 45 character levels but have the data for all 64 I currently plan to add when players start getting closer to 45. fallen Darn Right! I expect to play this game for years to come! Anything less and Balgair would spend the rest of his life in an insane asylum. Ohh yes I am a fat corn fed pig at the HoS trough just can't get enough. Do you think it worthwhile to go ahead and add levels 46 through 64 to the table at this time? If so I'm on it.
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Post by fallen on Jan 28, 2015 19:07:09 GMT -5
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mataeus
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[ Elite & Star Traders 2 Supporter ]
From summer sands, to armageddons reach.
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Post by mataeus on Jan 29, 2015 4:53:13 GMT -5
mataeus - the end of the game will not be a flat "end, you're done" but will invite you to enter into a replayable set of end-game dungeons to achieve max level, score, and loot. Excellent! That's exactly what I was hoping for  |
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Post by bobc on Jan 29, 2015 7:46:38 GMT -5
Your plans for the end-game sound very exciting fallen. Couple of questions if you have time please? How many levels do you expect to be remaining at the end of Ep 4? When we are playing through these dungeons will you re-scale the amount of XP needed to reach the next level so that we can level-up through the talents quicker, or will growth continue on the 'in-game scale'? Will the end of Ep 4 cut-off leaderboard scoring? Thanks |
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Post by fallen on Jan 29, 2015 11:32:37 GMT -5
bobc - as the game has progressed, the XP gains have been increasing, and you'll see that pick up in E4 too. Especially in the final dungeons ... but those places will be truly nasty too. I don't have an estimate on the level count for the post end-game at this time. Good question about leaderboard scoring. I could see arguments both ways -- that you'd want to be able to compare groups at their "final moment" or that you'd want to run a group forever (think Ironman Nightmare ... if I can keep playing and not dying against always harder monsters ...)
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Post by bobc on Jan 29, 2015 14:26:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers fallen. Any question around leaderboards is always a thorny issue and hotly contested. Personally I would prefer a level playing field where scoring stops when Ep 4 finishes. That way the high scores are based on in-game skill and not post-game tenacity. |
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Post by fallen on Jan 29, 2015 17:08:41 GMT -5
bobc - perhaps scores after the end of E4 could be posted to special leaderboards.
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Post by bobc on Jan 30, 2015 3:27:30 GMT -5
bobc - perhaps scores after the end of E4 could be posted to special leaderboards. Sounds like a fantastic solution fallen. That option had actually crossed my mind too, though with the advent of tournament leaderboards I wasn't sure that the leaderboard list would become so long and convoluted that it would start turning people off to the idea. |
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Post by John Robinson on Jan 30, 2015 12:16:50 GMT -5
Happy Days, With generous help finally finished the leveling table for all 64 levels. Now you can better plan for the long road to victory. May Ryethin guide your Chosen Four teams. |
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Post by bobc on Jan 30, 2015 14:31:18 GMT -5
Nice one. Thank you John Robinson. Your various tables are truly appreciated and are a great point of reference for game planning. |
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Post by Blitz on Apr 24, 2015 9:02:49 GMT -5
Is my math just plain wrong or does the Rogue/Thief Talent column total up to 44 and not 45?
EDIT: Also, Sorceror's attribute column only adds up to 33 and not 34
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Post by anrdaemon on Apr 24, 2015 14:40:18 GMT -5
Different characters get different amount of attributes and talent points.
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Post by Blitz on Apr 24, 2015 16:12:01 GMT -5
Different characters get different amount of attributes and talent points. I know. I'm trying to point out errors in OP. I imported the able into google docs and had a couple of discrepancies |
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