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Post by slawyer on Mar 29, 2014 11:10:44 GMT -5
I was thinking of the insane stats rolled for alien captains, like scary-high pilot or great tactics... Yeah, when you're facing an Alien at 3.5X your level, it's gonna have stats/skills > 2X yours and kick your ass no matter what ship you've got. I'm not suggesting increasing the max values above what the Alien ships have -- just up to what they sport, to even the odds up a bit.  And it would be nice to change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs (excluding Alien and Hulk designs, and assuming all appropriate awards are earned/purchased) can be created using the designer. In my opinion, you should consider it a bug that those designs like Omega Cruiser can't be made now; you said it followed the same rules and it clearly doesn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 19:53:01 GMT -5
Alright I have a solution Cory Trese and fallen: - Every statistic equals a certain amount of "points", the amount which depends on the ststietic's importance and maximum statistic ability. For example, crew has least number of points, engines has more points than sails, etc - There is a maximum number of "points" that a ship can have, based on the "points" of other high-end ships (slayernz, carnifex, titan cruiser, desda megalift) - Statistics can be pushed passed their "normal" max (max currently implemented), however the number of points for statistics passed max increases (eg 1 engine = 5 points but 1 engine passed 50 engines = 10 points) - In addiiton to a normal max, their is also an "absolute" max which statistics cannot go above no matter what - Absolute max depends on max statistics of already-made ships (eg highest engine ship has 62 engines so absolute max engines would be about 60-65) - Rank needed to push stats past normal max - Custom-made ships have 2x price compared to normal ships - Statistic balance relating to armor compared to hull, prupoltion compared to size, sails compared to engines etc still exists, but tweaked so that ships simmilar to high-end already-made ships can be created With these new rules, custom ships can be as good as high-end ships without being too overbalanced and with rank/credit penalties for additional balance |
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Post by hlo on Mar 30, 2014 1:59:13 GMT -5
Why don't we allow players to modify existing ships? Just make the cost expensive. If someone want to add extra stuff to Omega Cruiser, let them pay the high price. I cannot care less if I have to use 1 million just to add some stuff to the Omega Cruiser. By then money is almost no object anyway.
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 30, 2014 9:25:01 GMT -5
I was thinking of the insane stats rolled for alien captains, like scary-high pilot or great tactics... Yeah, when you're facing an Alien at 3.5X your level, it's gonna have stats/skills > 2X yours and kick your ass no matter what ship you've got. I'm not suggesting increasing the max values above what the Alien ships have -- just up to what they sport, to even the odds up a bit. And it would be nice to change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs (excluding Alien and Hulk designs, and assuming all appropriate awards are earned/purchased) can be created using the designer. In my opinion, you should consider it a bug that those designs like Omega Cruiser can't be made now; you said it followed the same rules and it clearly doesn't. There were many times, as you've shown in the charts, where I bent the rules. Right now, the ship designer doesn't have any bending. I'm working on your suggestion, in a form and fashion -- "change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs" |
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 30, 2014 9:25:18 GMT -5
Why don't we allow players to modify existing ships? Just make the cost expensive. If someone want to add extra stuff to Omega Cruiser, let them pay the high price. I cannot care less if I have to use 1 million just to add some stuff to the Omega Cruiser. By then money is almost no object anyway. In progress feature. I think looking at all the designs will be another draw of the Ship Designer |
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 30, 2014 9:27:05 GMT -5
I'm experiencing a small bug with the ship designer. Every time I alter any of the stats, With buttons or sliders, my screen jumps to the top. Device: Samsung Galaxy S4 OS: Android 4.3 Build Number: JSS15J.I337UCUEMK2 Please update to the latest version of Star Traders RPG |
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Post by philr1 on Mar 30, 2014 10:08:56 GMT -5
Cory you did fix the bug where it kept jumping to the tol of the screen when you made changes in ship designer. Its now back with a vengeance in latest update!
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 30, 2014 10:13:32 GMT -5
Cory you did fix the bug where it kept jumping to the tol of the screen when you made changes in ship designer. Its now back with a vengeance in latest update! You've got to share details about your device if you think the bug is back. We support about 5000 devices and when it comes to Android, every version and screen size is a different game. I'm glad to say the bug is gone with a vengeance on our big devices by %, at least normal stock ones from the test pool or via virts! If you're having an issue, please do post your device info and I can try to hack up a solution for it, so long as it doesn't break anyone else. |
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Post by philr1 on Mar 30, 2014 10:17:59 GMT -5
Samsung Galaxy Young GT-S5360 android 2.3.6.
The phone that doesnt work with anything properly!
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Post by fallen on Mar 30, 2014 10:19:58 GMT -5
philr1 - correct  sorry, but it is one of the worst!
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Post by philr1 on Mar 30, 2014 10:26:24 GMT -5
Thanks for rubbing it Fallen! And after all the money I've spent as well  You will like my new phone when I get it but determined to find as many bugs as I can with it! |
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Post by fallen on Mar 30, 2014 10:29:46 GMT -5
philr1 - hehehe, sorry. Torp me if you must ;D
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Post by philr1 on Mar 30, 2014 10:50:33 GMT -5
philr1 - hehehe, sorry. Torp me if you must ;D Torp you? Carry on with this charade and you will be joining the Yakuza in the sin bin ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 12:27:10 GMT -5
Yeah, when you're facing an Alien at 3.5X your level, it's gonna have stats/skills > 2X yours and kick your ass no matter what ship you've got. I'm not suggesting increasing the max values above what the Alien ships have -- just up to what they sport, to even the odds up a bit. And it would be nice to change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs (excluding Alien and Hulk designs, and assuming all appropriate awards are earned/purchased) can be created using the designer. In my opinion, you should consider it a bug that those designs like Omega Cruiser can't be made now; you said it followed the same rules and it clearly doesn't. There were many times, as you've shown in the charts, where I bent the rules. Right now, the ship designer doesn't have any bending. I'm working on your suggestion, in a form and fashion -- "change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs" Hey wait what about my suggestion?  |
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Post by Cory Trese on Mar 30, 2014 12:29:45 GMT -5
There were many times, as you've shown in the charts, where I bent the rules. Right now, the ship designer doesn't have any bending. I'm working on your suggestion, in a form and fashion -- "change the min/max on the ship designer inspection checks to match what the catalog actually has, so that all current ship designs" Hey wait what about my suggestion? A lot of what you said is already in the system in one form or another. The issue at hand is not that the math or the system that's been built -- three years of work. I have made a set of adjustments moving from 1.9995 to 2.1995 for the internal technical caps. Some of the caps went as high as 2.3995 to include the really "pushing" designs. |
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sorry, but it is one of the worst!
You will like my new phone when I get it but determined to find as many bugs as I can with it!