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Post by LordofSyn on Jul 16, 2017 13:03:39 GMT -5
I wonder though, how do you deal with the constant warfares? I'm constantly at war with three factions and it's exhausting me. I don't have enough resources to keep the wars going for too long, but due to the size of my kingdom nobody wants to call it a truce with me  Small government might make a difference. Give the power back to the people. |
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Post by poryg on Jul 16, 2017 17:06:37 GMT -5
It's true that I have a huge kingdom. However, if I didn't have a huge kingdom, I wouldn't be able to keep the greedy vassals fed.
So in the end the only thing I can do is besiege several castles and then let them be taken and take them back so that the attacking parties of the enemies have some fun... And then cleverly close peace so that I'll be able to capture more territory once I can focus my warfare thingies...
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Post by LordofSyn on Jul 16, 2017 17:08:54 GMT -5
It's true that I have a huge kingdom. However, if I didn't have a huge kingdom, I wouldn't be able to keep the greedy vassals fed. So in the end the only thing I can do is besiege several castles and then let them be taken and take them back so that the attacking parties of the enemies have some fun... And then cleverly close peace so that I'll be able to capture more territory once I can focus my warfare thingies... Now you have a sample size outlook on how humanity works. It hasn't changed much from that in 3000+ years and is still relevant today. |
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Post by stratego on Jul 16, 2017 17:40:08 GMT -5
I wonder though, how do you deal with the constant warfares? I'm constantly at war with three factions and it's exhausting me. I don't have enough resources to keep the wars going for too long, but due to the size of my kingdom nobody wants to call it a truce with me It is hard to get truces, but you need high persuasion and good relationships with at least one of the kings, then it goes easier |
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Post by poryg on Jul 17, 2017 7:36:51 GMT -5
Good relations with King Ragnar, two companions with 5 persuasion... But still pretty harsh conditions to live in. I have to help the diplomacy through cunning military operations, picking off enemy vassals one by one, gaining honor and friendships with it when I let the enemies go, if some vassal gets captured, I free him up, if I lose a fort (which is always easy, since they are barely defended), I simply attack it back... Doing all I can to make them feel they are losing the war and be willing to accept a truce. Then I can focus on one enemy when I have only one war going on... And when I have no truce, it's time for a feast and repair of the damaged reputation. However, I have to constantly buy the food, because I can't afford to plunder enemy villages and allow enemy lords to capture me.
Luckily though, as I use Vaegirs (exterminated) and Khergits, I have no troubles maintaining army size. They are very easy to train and their recruits along with Khergit tribesmen they are the only ones that immediately level up overnight after one training if you have training skill 5. The only downside to it is that I don't have good sieging troops, which results in huge casualties there... But in a field battle I can cope up with 20% bigger armies and still win with little casualties ^_^
As for lords, it's getting more difficult. I have enough honor to have many friends, but I'm beginning to have too many power hungry vassals to keep them at bay (in other words more than 7 vassals). I always make sure that every family gets its' own castle, to make sure they can regain troops easily.
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Post by stratego on Jul 18, 2017 1:56:34 GMT -5
Good relations with King Ragnar, two companions with 5 persuasion... But still pretty harsh conditions to live in. I have to help the diplomacy through cunning military operations, picking off enemy vassals one by one, gaining honor and friendships with it when I let the enemies go, if some vassal gets captured, I free him up, if I lose a fort (which is always easy, since they are barely defended), I simply attack it back... Doing all I can to make them feel they are losing the war and be willing to accept a truce. Then I can focus on one enemy when I have only one war going on... And when I have no truce, it's time for a feast and repair of the damaged reputation. However, I have to constantly buy the food, because I can't afford to plunder enemy villages and allow enemy lords to capture me. Luckily though, as I use Vaegirs (exterminated) and Khergits, I have no troubles maintaining army size. They are very easy to train and their recruits along with Khergit tribesmen they are the only ones that immediately level up overnight after one training if you have training skill 5. The only downside to it is that I don't have good sieging troops, which results in huge casualties there... But in a field battle I can cope up with 20% bigger armies and still win with little casualties ^_^ As for lords, it's getting more difficult. I have enough honor to have many friends, but I'm beginning to have too many power hungry vassals to keep them at bay (in other words more than 7 vassals). I always make sure that every family gets its' own castle, to make sure they can regain troops easily. I like to use horse archers and knights as they are good for both battles and sieges, but you have to use some tactics like set archers in line and take your knights in direct siege up in castle(don't go yourself if you don't have good armor(preferably 54+ helmet, 32+boots, 12+glowes and summary 60+torso) and weapons(I prefer 2 handed swords+shield on back +siege crossbow)). |
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Post by poryg on Jul 18, 2017 4:38:19 GMT -5
I have Vaegir knights or Khergit lancers depending who I am fighting. And I have no issues with either siege or fights. I use a morningstar and a poleaxe for siege, morningstar and lance for fighting. Also, because I have decent relations with several vaegir and khergit villages, I don't need to worry about casualties, since I can recruit mass of recruits very quickly and since these are the easiest ones to train, even training them is very easy. I hate training swadians and nords, it takes very long and swadian man at arms or nord veteran is mostly the last step... And if I reach nord huscarls, they kill themselves quickly). I then have a board shield on my back and some durable (preferably huscarl or iron) shield on my front, this way I am protected from arrows shot to my back as well as to my front. I have to disagree with you on the part of staying out of sieges. It's a suicide to do it with 30 armor, I agree, but as long as you have 50 body armor, you can manage well enough. I directly participate in sieges, sometimes even in frontlines on the ladder, if the castle allows me to smash my way through. Only when I am low on hp, I hide and wait for the siege to end. The thing is to get to pick off the archers on the walls, then get on the ground and then attack the spawning masses of enemy units from behind. With poleaxe I usually kill half of them before they even reach my units (once again I am exploiting the AI that just will not retaliate, because they have their own targets. And yes, I play on hard AI, 100% damage... And easy, but manual lance control (because the hard lance control has the lance couched for too short time and the AI couches it just like with automatic difficulty, which is unfair. I use great lance btw, the reach of 240 is just monstrous against enemy lancers). The fact that I participate in sieges gives me huge amounts of xp and saves me a decent amount of units, allowing the campaign to continue one castle further (before I reach it with my vassals and build ladders/tower, I heal myself easily with wound treatment 7 (5+2)). And also, I can protect my fellow vaegir knights from enemy archers by 1. drawing their fire on myself, and 2. shielding them when they are in front of a tower. Doesn't help too much, but it's better than nothing  I always focus my character on 3 main skills. 1. wound treatment 2. pathfinding 3. engineering I never entrust my companions with these three skills, because they are wounded even with 20% hp, while I need 10% hp to not be wounded. I then entrust two companions with persuasion and two with minor skills like tracking or surgery. I don't use looting, since I don't plunder villages (to not decrease reputation with them - in one of my playthroughs I plundered Tash Kulun so many times that I reached -70 relations with it... And then Yaroglek gave it to me as a fief...  ) Since I have lots of money from enterprises (dyes) and fights, I don't really need loot anyway... And if I need food, I simply buy it |
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Post by stratego on Jul 18, 2017 17:53:54 GMT -5
I have Vaegir knights or Khergit lancers depending who I am fighting. And I have no issues with either siege or fights. I use a morningstar and a poleaxe for siege, morningstar and lance for fighting. Also, because I have decent relations with several vaegir and khergit villages, I don't need to worry about casualties, since I can recruit mass of recruits very quickly and since these are the easiest ones to train, even training them is very easy. I hate training swadians and nords, it takes very long and swadian man at arms or nord veteran is mostly the last step... And if I reach nord huscarls, they kill themselves quickly). I then have a board shield on my back and some durable (preferably huscarl or iron) shield on my front, this way I am protected from arrows shot to my back as well as to my front. I have to disagree with you on the part of staying out of sieges. It's a suicide to do it with 30 armor, I agree, but as long as you have 50 body armor, you can manage well enough. I directly participate in sieges, sometimes even in frontlines on the ladder, if the castle allows me to smash my way through. Only when I am low on hp, I hide and wait for the siege to end. The thing is to get to pick off the archers on the walls, then get on the ground and then attack the spawning masses of enemy units from behind. With poleaxe I usually kill half of them before they even reach my units (once again I am exploiting the AI that just will not retaliate, because they have their own targets. And yes, I play on hard AI, 100% damage... And easy, but manual lance control (because the hard lance control has the lance couched for too short time and the AI couches it just like with automatic difficulty, which is unfair. I use great lance btw, the reach of 240 is just monstrous against enemy lancers). The fact that I participate in sieges gives me huge amounts of xp and saves me a decent amount of units, allowing the campaign to continue one castle further (before I reach it with my vassals and build ladders/tower, I heal myself easily with wound treatment 7 (5+2)). And also, I can protect my fellow vaegir knights from enemy archers by 1. drawing their fire on myself, and 2. shielding them when they are in front of a tower. Doesn't help too much, but it's better than nothing I always focus my character on 3 main skills. 1. wound treatment 2. pathfinding 3. engineering I never entrust my companions with these three skills, because they are wounded even with 20% hp, while I need 10% hp to not be wounded. I then entrust two companions with persuasion and two with minor skills like tracking or surgery. I don't use looting, since I don't plunder villages (to not decrease reputation with them - in one of my playthroughs I plundered Tash Kulun so many times that I reached -70 relations with it... And then Yaroglek gave it to me as a fief... ) Since I have lots of money from enterprises (dyes) and fights, I don't really need loot anyway... And if I need food, I simply buy it Also a good thing to do, give elite armor to your companions, they will be holding out a lot longer and it is good to give companions all medical skills as they can do you real good if they are in battle force(even if they doesn't spawn they will give bonuses as long as they aren't in wounded list) |
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Post by poryg on Jul 19, 2017 2:06:18 GMT -5
Not a bad idea to have a backup healer with the skill that gives you 5% more hp after every battle. I will probably implement it one day However, even with the good armor the companions still die out way more than I would have liked |
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Post by stratego on Jul 19, 2017 4:39:58 GMT -5
Not a bad idea to have a backup healer with the skill that gives you 5% more hp after every battle. I will probably implement it one day However, even with the good armor the companions still die out way more than I would have liked Put them after main army in the army list, they will spawn later and they won't take the first hit and in combat they should have more value than other units |
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Post by stratego on Jul 19, 2017 4:41:32 GMT -5
Alsi after you make elite units, you can make them even better in army settings go talk with them if they have enough xp you can give them combat skills, they will be better fighters in the end😉
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Post by poryg on Jul 19, 2017 7:29:27 GMT -5
If I put them in the end, that will result in them being thrown away by my Vaegirs. My usual party size is 70-90 members and the battle size set is 75. And I never have huge casualties in battle, unless I'm at a disadvantage or get knocked unconscious (even when I lay siege, my casualties are minor as I have 6 vassals with me). So I always put them at the front, let them kill whatever they want and if they get knocked unconscious, well, they get knocked unconscious. From time to time they get a level up anyway I think the only skill worth investing to is trainer and ironflesh. Weapon master is enough once it reaches three, same with riding, since riding skill three and hunter horse are enough to offset the speed boost Vaegir knights gain from riding skill 7. |
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Post by poryg on Jul 22, 2017 15:02:57 GMT -5
Stronghold crusader break! i'm doing every campaign mission Norush. Quite challenging sometimes, like when I was against the five snakes...
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Post by stratego on Jul 22, 2017 17:19:02 GMT -5
Stronghold crusader break! i'm doing every campaign mission Norush. Quite challenging sometimes, like when I was against the five snakes... That's a very good game😉 |
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Post by LordofSyn on Jul 22, 2017 17:44:19 GMT -5
How about the "How to set up RPbot for Shaluniverse game"?
Yeah, that's what I'm playing right meow.
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) Since I have lots of money from enterprises (dyes) and fights, I don't really need loot anyway... And if I need food, I simply buy it