mataeus
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Post by mataeus on Aug 15, 2014 2:34:56 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with surveillance. As long as there's not a camera in my home watching my personal life, I couldn't care less. Most are hypocrits anyway. They love their self-importance. People go around screaming 'Oh, they're watching my every move it's horrible!' all the while posting their location / mood / what food they're eating / how long they're on holiday for (burgle me, burgle me!) to social media sites, along with stupid random photos taken in their bathroom. (Tip! The ONLY PERSON that's looking at your selfies is YOU!) So yeah. I don't care if my ISP keeps a log of every web page I visit. I don't care if the police have a record of every text message I send. I don't care if I every phone call I make is recorded. All they'll have a log of is me telling my Beloved how much I love her.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 7:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by mataeus on Aug 15, 2014 8:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by Officer Genious on Aug 15, 2014 10:03:53 GMT -5
rabidbite, is it weird that every time you post I hear a young, angry anarchist? Not meant at all as a dig (I'm getting pretty disillusioned with how real the CK world has gotten myself), but for some reason, I imagine you at rallies yelling "Down with the man!". WOW. For not being a dig, its ... a heck of a dig. Let's take it from the top. I wish I was young. Not angry. I am, however, vaguely frustrated and disappointed at the dual standard. The laws apply to everyone except those who most need to be regulated by said laws? An extremely worrisome trend that usually leads to conflicts with guns. Nope. Not an anarchist. Nope. I wouldn't be the zealot in a rally screaming "down with the man." That would be very unproductive. I -AM- the guy working with politicians and some shakers to help get better policy, as best as a private citizen can without getting too dirty. See, labeling anyone as an anarchist or liberal or libertarian or progressive or conservative is, and forgive me ... this might sound rude, a way to conform. The instant a label is applied we feel better. We now can place someone's views in a nice little box and apply a stereotype to said someone. Point in fact: Anarchist = the guy screaming "down with the man AT A RALLY". Though not necessarily saying 'crazy nut', it sure does paint with broad strokes towards that. Thus, not a nice thing to say. I know you didn't mean it like that, but simply making sure you understand where I stand. ------------- Now, with that over, let's turn back to the topic. "I hacked in and made off with 40GB of data from Gamma's networks. I have hard proof they knew they were selling (and still are) to people using their software to attack Bahraini activists, along with a whole lot of other stuff in that 40GB." That is a very important statement. It means that the surveillance we've seen not only continues, but proliferates. It also says that an INDIVIDUAL can make a difference. rabid Not at all what I meant. I had the feeling it wasn't going to come out right, ergo the disclaimer (no dig). I simply meant that what you say is pretty much true- the truth that people would rather ignore (or would be misled into ignoring) and would have labeled as the rhetoric of an angry anarchist to be sidelined only 20 years ago has all come true (Citizens United, Derivitaves Crash of 2008, Tech Bubble Crash, Technology replacing certain human jobs, corporate government, wiretapping US citizens and allies and so on). I only used young anarchist because they are always associated with angry speeches- even if you (and others) would be angry for perfectly legitimate reasons. I respect you and your opinions and deeply apologize for making you offended. |
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Post by Officer Genious on Aug 15, 2014 10:18:59 GMT -5
Double post simply because I love that someone else has seen Iron Giant. Hogarth! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 11:09:10 GMT -5
Hey, I LOVE the idea of anarchism *gets hit with a tomato* let me explain.
Rather than the shared public opinion that depicts anarchism as a Without Rule of Law situation right out of Mad Max. Anarchism to me is more of an enlightened state for a society, something like you would see in an Amazon tribal band where laws simply aren't needed anymore. By itself its a supremely naive thought, but ultimately what it may be possible to achieve with a lot of social evolution in the right direction..
unfortunately, probably won't happen short of turning everyone into Borg drones.
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Post by rabidbite on Aug 15, 2014 11:36:20 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with surveillance. As long as there's not a camera in my home watching my personal life, I couldn't care less. Most are hypocrits anyway. They love their self-importance. People go around screaming 'Oh, they're watching my every move it's horrible!' all the while posting their location / mood / what food they're eating / how long they're on holiday for (burgle me, burgle me!) to social media sites, along with stupid random photos taken in their bathroom. (Tip! The ONLY PERSON that's looking at your selfies is YOU!) So yeah. I don't care if my ISP keeps a log of every web page I visit. I don't care if the police have a record of every text message I send. I don't care if I every phone call I make is recorded. All they'll have a log of is me telling my Beloved how much I love her. Well, to each their own. I, for one, wouldn't want the conversations with my(I use MY to express humanity as a whole, not me personally): wife, girlfriend, mistress, boyfriend, mom, dad, the guys at the pool hall, the dog trainer, the nanny, the other nanny, grandparents, book club, the Santera Priestess I consult in secret, etc... exposed to scrutiny by a 3rd party. Any of that can be misconstrued. Any of that can be spinned to say anything about anyone. Any of that can become a weapon against you. Is not all movies. I've seen it done. So, as much as I don't judge your 'since I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear' statement, and I wish I could embrace it, I can't. rabid |
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Post by rabidbite on Aug 15, 2014 11:38:08 GMT -5
Hey, I LOVE the idea of anarchism *gets hit with a tomato* let me explain. Rather than the shared public opinion that depicts anarchism as a Without Rule of Law situation right out of Mad Max. Anarchism to me is more of an enlightened state for a society, something like you would see in an Amazon tribal band where laws simply aren't needed anymore. By itself its a supremely naive thought, but ultimately what it may be possible to achieve with a lot of social evolution in the right direction.. unfortunately, probably won't happen short of turning everyone into Borg drones. What was the name of that European nation that had on central government for a while? Instead each town was governed by a council and the councils got together for the betterment of the nation. Was it Belgium? I can't remember the name clearly. rabid |
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Post by rabidbite on Aug 15, 2014 11:39:46 GMT -5
Don't dwell on it. We had a misunderstanding. Wouldn't be human if we didn't.
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Post by Officer Genious on Aug 15, 2014 11:41:12 GMT -5
Hey, I LOVE the idea of anarchism *gets hit with a tomato* let me explain. Rather than the shared public opinion that depicts anarchism as a Without Rule of Law situation right out of Mad Max. Anarchism to me is more of an enlightened state for a society, something like you would see in an Amazon tribal band where laws simply aren't needed anymore. By itself its a supremely naive thought, but ultimately what it may be possible to achieve with a lot of social evolution in the right direction.. unfortunately, probably won't happen short of turning everyone into Borg drones. World peace would be nice. But like I said in a 3rd grade paper, you couldn't have world peace with even just one person on an island because he/she would start arguing and warring with his/herself eventually (Volleyball Wilson style). I got a D.  |
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Post by Officer Genious on Aug 15, 2014 11:43:54 GMT -5
Don't dwell on it. We had a misunderstanding. Wouldn't be human if we didn't. rabid Oh good. I just wanted to make sure you didn't feel like I was attacking you. I respect you and would hate to have a misunderstanding ruin everything (especially as I plan to badger you on more writing advice in the future). |
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Post by rabidbite on Aug 15, 2014 11:46:10 GMT -5
I think I'd prefer it if you liked me 'for my body', but a man will take what he can. rabid |
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Post by Officer Genious on Aug 15, 2014 11:47:36 GMT -5
I think I'd prefer it if you liked me 'for my body', but a man will take what he can. rabid But I DO like you for your body!! ... Of writing.  |
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Post by Jamozk Ekhiss on Aug 15, 2014 15:44:10 GMT -5
Hey, I LOVE the idea of anarchism *gets hit with a tomato* let me explain. Rather than the shared public opinion that depicts anarchism as a Without Rule of Law situation right out of Mad Max. Anarchism to me is more of an enlightened state for a society, something like you would see in an Amazon tribal band where laws simply aren't needed anymore. By itself its a supremely naive thought, but ultimately what it may be possible to achieve with a lot of social evolution in the right direction.. unfortunately, probably won't happen short of turning everyone into Borg drones. What was the name of that European nation that had on central government for a while? Instead each town was governed by a council and the councils got together for the betterment of the nation. Was it Belgium? I can't remember the name clearly. rabid Yeah, Belgium was a true anarchy a few years back - they had a hung parliament in the recession and it wasn't resolved, so everyone just got on with their own lives perfectly fine, and it did better than the rest of Europe. True anarchy like that can sometimes work (there's an anarchic village in Denmark that's been great for ages), but it's rare. I would be an anarchist, but I know it wouldn't work here, so I'll settle for socialism (I would be the angry young man shouting at a rally, but there aren't any rallies). |
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Post by rabidbite on Aug 15, 2014 18:53:57 GMT -5
Now, if people would start goblinizing, I think the world would be ... perfect. Shadowrun .. here we go. (crosses fingers and hopes to be made a dragon)
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