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Post by wascalwywabbit on Dec 5, 2015 0:47:30 GMT -5
That's why you need wider walls.  No need to escape the confines. |
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Post by Officer Genious on Dec 5, 2015 8:08:30 GMT -5
MnB was one of the best things to happen to CK. Drone Master will yet again raise the bar. I hope to also see some things like the outside jobs that required you to put that fence in many updates ago. I really want to be able to help through Patreon money is tight though. Perhaps if I'm lucky after the New Year I can do something. The Drone Master will be great when we can get there  I am not sure that we will look at the "outside the walls" concept again, it is a lot of work considering the state of CK's production. With 5 years and 7 games on the market, we have to keep forward facing (Patreon or not!) Thanks for being honest and not dangling a concept you likely won't implement in front of us. I can stop wasting energy on dreaming outside the walls and focus on some neat ideas for the inside. The honesty is refreshing. |
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Post by fallen on Dec 5, 2015 11:01:42 GMT -5
Officer Genious - we try to build it into our business. Thanks for the encouragement.
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Post by ntsheep on Dec 5, 2015 12:47:57 GMT -5
5 years and 7 games is truly amazing for a small indie developer fallen. The fact that you're still supporting and updating those first titles is one of the things that makes you guys great. Most of the major companies will only support a game for a year at most it seems. Once they've made there money back, they don't care about bugs or new content. Unless it's something that would hurt them to much in the PR department. I do understand that as you guys grow as programmers, trying to maintain old code while learning and deploying new code can be a bit of a chore. I've been working with computers for over 20 years now and trying to find time to teach myself new tricks while remembering the old makes me feel old. There's one rule I've gone by that has served my pretty well, Remember the old. For without it we never would have had the new. You would be surprised at how many times an old trick is needed to fix a new computer. Good luck with the next 7 years and beyond. |
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Post by Gh0$7 on Jan 4, 2016 14:36:19 GMT -5
Plot, and lots of it, that's the thing that the original lacked, please add storyline's, I don't carr how you do it, I just need this one feature to keepcme playing, I even qould buy DLC's for the first one, if they would include a plot.
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Post by fallen on Jan 4, 2016 21:49:00 GMT -5
Plot, and lots of it, that's the thing that the original lacked, please add storyline's, I don't carr how you do it, I just need this one feature to keepcme playing, I even qould buy DLC's for the first one, if they would include a plot. Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed the original. I hope you'll check out our other games. |
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Post by beverage on Jan 14, 2016 4:55:50 GMT -5
CK is when I first fell in love with your games. A little 3 inch budget Sony Xperia, single touch receptor and weeks of experiencing the general junk of the Play Store until WOW, this awesome expansive RPG game that just clicked with me and kept growing before my eyes. It really made that little crappy phone supercede my PS3. Then I found ST and TA!! Whats PS3?! All the work on CK since has been amazing and enriched it so much and in my humble opinion after the Drone Master (I still look at the CK Updates thread with anticipation most days ) I think It could be laid to rest with great pride. But I'll always look back fondly at the first night I got it and went to work the next day on ZERO sleep and still dreaming about decking out my crew and how the hell the Matrix worked. Come to think of it, might give BF a rest and finally do my solo-stealth hacker since the Chameleon Sheathe is on the scene (thanks for that fallen , i'm sure it was a common request but it was one I suggested and longed for) CK2, I'll up my pledge to $50 a month for a year and help fund the Kickstarter just to see it <- Hold me to it |
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Post by Officer Genious on Jan 14, 2016 10:45:59 GMT -5
CK is when I first fell in love with your games. A little 3 inch budget Sony Xperia, single touch receptor and weeks of experiencing the general junk of the Play Store until WOW, this awesome expansive RPG game that just clicked with me and kept growing before my eyes. It really made that little crappy phone supercede my PS3. Then I found ST and TA!! Whats PS3?! All the work on CK since has been amazing and enriched it so much and in my humble opinion after the Drone Master (I still look at the CK Updates thread with anticipation most days ) I think It could be laid to rest with great pride. But I'll always look back fondly at the first night I got it and went to work the next day on ZERO sleep and still dreaming about decking out my crew and how the hell the Matrix worked. Come to think of it, might give BF a rest and finally do my solo-stealth hacker since the Chameleon Sheathe is on the scene (thanks for that fallen , i'm sure it was a common request but it was one I suggested and longed for) CK2, I'll up my pledge to $50 a month for a year and help fund the Kickstarter just to see it <- Hold me to it I'll be at that Kickstarter too, arguing for Face rights being the Face fanatic I am. Someone set an alarm to wake me up when the Kickstarter starts! |
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Post by fallen on Jan 14, 2016 10:53:06 GMT -5
CK is when I first fell in love with your games. A little 3 inch budget Sony Xperia, single touch receptor and weeks of experiencing the general junk of the Play Store until WOW, this awesome expansive RPG game that just clicked with me and kept growing before my eyes. It really made that little crappy phone supercede my PS3. Then I found ST and TA!! Whats PS3?! All the work on CK since has been amazing and enriched it so much and in my humble opinion after the Drone Master (I still look at the CK Updates thread with anticipation most days ) I think It could be laid to rest with great pride. But I'll always look back fondly at the first night I got it and went to work the next day on ZERO sleep and still dreaming about decking out my crew and how the hell the Matrix worked. Come to think of it, might give BF a rest and finally do my solo-stealth hacker since the Chameleon Sheathe is on the scene (thanks for that fallen , i'm sure it was a common request but it was one I suggested and longed for) CK2, I'll up my pledge to $50 a month for a year and help fund the Kickstarter just to see it <- Hold me to it Thank you for your already prodigious support, Patreon! The Drone Master is still getting edged along, and I agree, will be the perfect capstone for the 5 years of crazy expansion of Cyber Knights. |
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Post by immortal on Jan 22, 2016 10:44:14 GMT -5
I think in CK2 would be awesome if the system in CK1 was tweaked to make the game more challenging and feel more consequential? All TB games are my favorite mobile games with CK being my favorite. I have multiple suggestions for improvements that if CK2 was coming out I'd rather have in that. I always liked when the sequel took the base IP and added stuff that makes you wonder how you ever played without it and I think especially now there is at least Titanium Bone Grafts in place (as TB continues to keep updating which I'm not complaining about) that it could easily adapt a lot of the elements for CK2.
Stims/Drugs - Cram shots/crammers should have drawbacks like -1/2 mp when used which would make sense as you stay awake at the cost of your mental health. Have combat drugs such as ones that give 1d3 health for 2 turns, skin hardening drugs that give you +1 damage resistance for 1 minute (so they wear off after combat) with the cost being the 2ap to use them. Make these drugs more expensive and perhaps their knockoffs in stimhouses or purchasable from shady characters that might be Bravestar agents out to catch perps in a sting operation. Of course there's a lot more that could be done that could expand on that idea but I'm not privy to what new drugs the corps are working on.
Weapons/Armor - There is no shortage of equipment to choose from in the NBZ but some Modders/Cybertechs which are worth their weight in creds could be tucked away by the gangs and corps that were able to modify weapons ONLY a couple times for a large expense and as the corps use proprietary parts. These modifications won't make anything too powerful but can give an edge in battle such as increasing the rate of fire/mag size or some that increase the power or penetration slightly. So basically only allow a couple modifications that change stats on weapons but only allow a few to each piece of equipment. Modders that are only proficient in certain things (modding pistols OR modding shotguns, OR armor, etc) that some corps or gangs might have locked away from the lower ranks in their group.
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Karma - The system in place from CK1 works pretty well and with a few additions it could basically be kept (I feel at least) such as having a minimum before you can use the smiths/modders and perhaps make negatives have more drawbacks. The more hated you are the more experienced members/security forces that are sent to dispatch you. Such as more health, accuracy, faster, better armor or something like that.
Enterable Buildings - Have package retrieval missions that require you to go into buildings that are only enterable with these missions (Like how Shadowrun for the Sega Genesis was) while you search for it. This would create intensive combat situations as you wouldn't be able to move around as much and would be more like end game missions that require a crack team with excellent gear (or at least a lot of luck)
I don't have any suggestions on much else that hasn't already been said and as far as story goes TB has created multiple lore rich worlds that I enjoy the heck out of. I'm sure TB has a lot of good things in store for us but I'm just adding my two cents.
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Post by Cory Trese on Jan 22, 2016 10:52:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback. CK2 is definitely a possibility, and I love your ideas!
We just need to keep making progress, selling lots of copies of Battleforce and pray ST2 is a big success.
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Post by fallen on Jan 22, 2016 10:53:09 GMT -5
immortal - great suggestions all around and thanks for your support! I hope you'll help us keep moving forward by sharing the game with friends and leaving reviews on any TB games you play 
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Post by caliaris on Feb 4, 2016 9:24:07 GMT -5
OK, so here's my list of what I'd like to see in CK2 should you bless us so (pretty please).
I love having the different avatars, especially the Sandbox 2 options where the knights are more specialized with weapon choices. What I'd love to see tied in with that idea is different MNB type storylines for those specialist Knights.
Another idea is that the attribute caps for Runners and Knights ought to be different. Something along the lines of the general cap for runners being say 6 except for the attribute most closely related to their profession. For instance a Hacker could advance Mind/Intelligence to 9, Cyberswords Body/Strength, Faces get Mind/Perception, etc. I mean Knights are supposed to be the ultra rare elite, yet except for being bonded to their Quantum computer they don't really have an advantage over anyone else.
I also think that it is too easy to build positive reputation with all factions. I mean I have one game where I have over 500 rep with every faction. Maybe make reputation more dynamic. Say if I do a job for the Fennians working against K Horizon, I would lose as much K Horizon rep as I gain with the Fennians, possibly with a check against Stealth to mitigate the rep loss by half. Maybe even take it further and when yer working for a faction involved in a conflict incur a rep loss with that faction also.
For example: Mars and Yakuza are in an info war. If I do a job for the Yakuza against Brave Star and gain 2 rep, I will lose 2 rep with BS unless I make a successful Stealth save. (Which is to say the BS bosses might not be sure I was the one who pulled off the job). Then I'd also have a second save for rep loss with Mars. Now I'm not working against Mars so their info might not be as reliable. If I failed the Stealth check vs BS its a check for full or half just like for BS (they know I'm helping their enemy). If I succeeded my Stealth check vs BS its a check for half or no rep loss vs Mars. If I passed both checks essentially I kept my self cloaked in the shadows and nobody is sure they can really blame me for the job. Now this could also gain me rep with a third party if say BS and BO were in a Street War BO might give me props for hurting their enemy (IF they know I'm the one who did it).
Definitely have more possible Ops, they don't all have to have huge payouts, but getting those juicy Ops more often would help bring the whole game to life a great deal.
Make Hacking and the Matrix a graphical interface! Honestly its a huge let down in CK that Hacking is all text based. It makes playing a Hacker boring and almost pointless (almost only because the Data Haven payouts are relatively high).
Package delivery/escort jobs should have rendezvous points when given by v-chip connectors. The current setup is too easy to cheat by checking the connectors job offers then going to where the mark/package delivery is and accepting the job from there.
Well, those are the main things I'd like to see in CK2. Some, I know, have been mentioned already. Now I gotta go get BF since it sounds like if there is a CK2 its likely to be built on the same engine.
Happy gaming y'all, and keep up the awesome work guys!
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Post by fallen on Feb 4, 2016 11:19:41 GMT -5
Well, those are the main things I'd like to see in CK2. Some, I know, have been mentioned already. Now I gotta go get BF since it sounds like if there is a CK2 its likely to be built on the same engine. Thanks for all the awesome suggestions! And yes, CK2 would be built upon the back of the BF engine, which was built on the back of ST 4X which was built on the back of Heroes of Steel ... back of TA ... CK! |
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Post by Brutus Aurelius on Feb 5, 2016 14:02:34 GMT -5
Well, those are the main things I'd like to see in CK2. Some, I know, have been mentioned already. Now I gotta go get BF since it sounds like if there is a CK2 its likely to be built on the same engine. Thanks for all the awesome suggestions! And yes, CK2 would be built upon the back of the BF engine, which was built on the back of ST 4X which was built on the back of Heroes of Steel ... back of TA ... CK! Full circle indeed. |
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No need to escape the confines.
I am not sure that we will look at the "outside the walls" concept again, it is a lot of work considering the state of CK's production. With 5 years and 7 games on the market, we have to keep forward facing (Patreon or not!)
