House Thulun (Let's Play Discussion Thread)

[abysmal]

I personally believe that until we can actual afford having more planets as a whole, we actually should focus more on getting our industrial capabilities online. I would at least wait till Planetary Construction 3 before adding more colonies.

[En1gma]

I disagree. We are going to fall behind if we do not colonize. We settled and took this planet with the expectation that we would colonize our first choice. To not do this when we have the first opportunity would show weakness. Is this council prepared to lose face before the lower clans? I for one am not. We must expand, and do it now.

[slayernz]

En1gma, nobody is saying that you can't have the planet of your choice - and we aren't even saying you shouldn't expand. Perhaps what is being suggested by your learned colleague, abysmal is that expansion is measured - getting planets up and running, able to cope with the influx of new refugees before new planets are claimed. Otherwise we'll get to the point where we get too many planets started, with no funds reserved for supporting the planets during their setup.

Mines
Factories
Hab Modules

They all soak up money and CP.

[abysmal]

Its easy to jump into colonizing early. However, we are only using funds we got from an Alpha Code. We can better use those funds to prolong destroying the xeno instead of rushing out and hoping for the best.

[En1gma]

My vote is still for immediate colonization of our promised planet. It will be some time until we unlock better colonization technology, so colonizing now will allow us to start improving conditions. Our +2cp will allow us to beat the curve of having a basic hive. My vote is cast, and I am but one of many voices.

[fallen]

You guys have me in stitches. Please continue.

[xdesperado]

Colonize now, there is zero benefit to not expanding our holdings to 2 or 3 worlds.
With extra colonies we not only can eventually produce the needed ships to defend humanity and cleanse the quadrant of Xeno threat, but we can greatly accelerate the pace of technology.

You want more advanced technology? The fastest route to unlocking that is for us to have more planets. Unlike Javat who can provide a huge boost to the economy by strip mining a single world we need multiple cultural centers to support our research efforts at their fullest.

With our more effecient work force we are able to more quickly get a new colony up and productive even without requiring additional subsidies from the Alliance coffers.

[abysmal]

I said my 2 cents. I'm gonna eat a bagel. Wait...

/me looks at tech tree...

Space bagel.

[lixxx235]

Concur with En1gma. I estimate Templar Command will be willing to release up to about a thousand credits for our first colony, which is more than enough to get us going. I propose that we start with habitation-factory-mine-habitation on the new planet.

[En1gma]

Agreed- we alone have the capability to recover from these new planets in the early game. The SS and Javat clans must wait for better colony ships to be anywhere near as effective as we are.

[lixxx235]

I am asking for ratification of this. Thank you.

Lixxx235
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Great House Thulun

[dragolord]

I agree that it would be best to build up a functioning galaxy, with each planet working perfectly than be spread out amongst the stars, a myriad of worthless planets. However, we do need all to colonize more planets. The Xenos are slow to attack, but there are others in the Quadrant. We need to fully colonise our sector of space, and we can build colony ships and get the new worlds off the ground far more quickly than the others, but, as much as we all deny it, we cannot run our new empire without the other Houses. Ultimately, of course, we have no power over them, and they can do as they wish without endangering our or the Song's worlds. You are right today that it would cost many credits, but a Javati mining world will provide many thousands over the years.

[xdesperado]

With Trade Halls and other structures we will be contributing more to the Alliance coffers than the Javati can for years.
We need not request subsidies for our colony worlds but there is no logical arguement for stalling our divine right to colonize both Tennath and Leiwen forthwith and provide the Alliance with both a boost in the economy and the research facilities needed to unlock better technology.

[En1gma]

dragolord- all the more reason for us to colonize planets early. With one or two more colonies on the map, we can start to dig mines, slowly of course, but at a pace quick enough to nullify any extra costs incurred with a new colony. Tennath is of utmost importance and must be colonized immediately. Leiwen can wait for a few extra turns, but to delay for any extended amount of time, we lose the early advantage gained by our added CP. Four turns for a single colony ship is a blessing, and one that the others cannot count as we can.

[En1gma]

House Thulun. We should begin final deliberations as to the coming turns.

My vote is squarely cast in immediately colonizing at least Tennath. This will allow us to begin building the empire this sector needs. If funds are an issue, we can hold off on colonizing Leiwen until we have basic structures in place to support expansion.

As xdesperado noted earlier, there is no benefit in waiting for colonization. Within a dozen turns on a new planet, we can have at least two Hab units built, plus a mine in construction to offset the extra costs. It will take the other colonies much longer to be in such a condition. We can even focus on mine construction if costs are too much of a restriction for the other factions. I cannot stress enough the importance of colonizing these planets early, so that they may blossom into the most powerful planets in the sector.

Research is not my strongest suit, so I will defer my vote to that which seems most logical.

Construction is also being deferred, as anything we build at this point will be beneficial to the House.

Sincerely,
En1gma
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