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Post by dragolord on Sept 30, 2014 15:07:58 GMT -5
Yes, Tennath should be our first priority. Leiwen seems wise as well, soon. One point though, the other houses are muttering thst we plan to steal their planets. While of course they cannot stop us, two discontented houses as our foes will hinder us incredibly. We must squash this in the bug. Possibly literally. My vote is to build a colony ship for Tennath, then start work on Habs and Factories as needed. Also, we'll need a name for the colony ship. Any ideas? I rather like the good ship "Up-yours, Javats".
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Post by lixxx235 on Sept 30, 2014 15:16:31 GMT -5
So, draft final statement:
Great House Thulun
We request:
*that on Thulun Prime we start build a colony ship immediatly, and move it to the top of the priority queue, then after that is done, start on another colony ship; if population reaches maximum habitation space, immediately switch to creating more habitation,
*that, once once the colony ship from Thulun Prime is finished, that it immediatly start toward Tennath, and that Tennath start work on a habitation unit, without subsidization,
*that we start immediate research on Planetary Construction 2,
*that the T.F. The Prophet’s Eyes start exploring anomalies, closest first, and that the option with highest possible reward be chosen when exploring,
Anything else?
Lixxx235
Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Post by En1gma on Sept 30, 2014 15:26:22 GMT -5
We should make our case for Leiwen to the Alliance. If this will put the other houses in an uproar, we could put it off for a few turns. I do not want this, but if push comes to shove we may need to give slightly. I have already made a visit to the Javat counsel, describing our intentions and making clear that we aren't pushing to colonize simply out of spite, but for the advancement of the entire quadrant. Perhaps a few other envoys should make a visit to the other houses in order to persuade them to back us, come our next meeting with the Templar High Command.
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Post by lixxx235 on Sept 30, 2014 15:39:43 GMT -5
I think that we should quickly vote to approve or decline the core parts described in my proposal. There will not be two colony ships in the next 10 turns, so we have time to discuss the rest, but we need to vote on the parts we need before Templar Command rules us out.
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Post by En1gma on Sept 30, 2014 15:45:25 GMT -5
You have my vote in full. We must still make our case, but, as you say- we have time.
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Post by johndramey on Sept 30, 2014 17:38:19 GMT -5
Lovely, lovely discussion going on over here. You guys are definitely the political branch of the alliance thus far. Anyways, vote timer is ticking. I'd suggest formalizing any plans you have made as soon as possible.
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Post by xdesperado on Sept 30, 2014 18:01:56 GMT -5
So, draft final statement: Great House Thulun We request: *that on Thulun Prime we start build a colony ship immediatly, and move it to the top of the priority queue, then after that is done, start on another colony ship; if population reaches maximum habitation space, immediately switch to creating more habitation, *that, once once the colony ship from Thulun Prime is finished, that it immediatly start toward Tennath, and that Tennath start work on a habitation unit, without subsidization, *that we start immediate research on Planetary Construction 2, *that the T.F. The Prophet’s Eyes start exploring anomalies, closest first, and that the option with highest possible reward be chosen when exploring, Anything else? Lixxx235 Minister of Foreign Affairs I'll back this proposal, but we should also start construction of a second Colony ship to be sent to Leiwen. Our Colonies will not require any subsidies from the Alliance to get up and contributing to the Alliance but the extra research potential and possible income are vital to everyone's survival. Also I move that after we construct a second Colony ship on Thulun prime further construction there be placed on hold except if Habs or Factories are required to keep up with population needs. Goal should be to build a Spice Hall and Trade Hall as soon as such become available so research needs to be directed in that regard. Respectfully Marquis XDesperado Minister of War and Sentinal of Truth |
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Post by En1gma on Sept 30, 2014 18:11:15 GMT -5
Seconded. Shall we post our plans? I don't have the time tonight, but I'll make plans to do the next write-up, if nobody wants it.
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Post by xdesperado on Sept 30, 2014 18:54:11 GMT -5
You all should check my latest posts to the Alliance thread. I move that lixxx235 post our next desired course of action with any ammendments we as a whole agree upon. Taking turns posting our plans to the Alliance council will help show us as a strong unified House and help curtail any rumblings that one or more of us are railroading the faction as a whole. Respectfully Marquis XDesperado Minister of War and Sentinal of Truth |
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Post by xdesperado on Oct 1, 2014 1:15:24 GMT -5
dragolord can we please try discussing plans thoroughly here in our own council chambers before blasting them out in front of the Alliance assemblage? I admit to having been a bit heavy handed in that regard myself and will attempt to curtail my more exuberant outbursts so that we may present a more unified front to the other houses. So far we have done fairly well in our dealings however lets not give the others an idea that we might be devided and thus hindered in our course moving forward. Respectfully Marquis XDesperado Minister of War and Sentinal of Truth
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Post by dragolord on Oct 1, 2014 1:35:43 GMT -5
I humbly apologise. I didn't think it was so very important to our cause. I shall remain silent in future, unless I have the Council's backing.
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Post by xdesperado on Oct 1, 2014 1:49:37 GMT -5
I humbly apologise. I didn't think it was so very important to our cause. I shall remain silent in future, unless I have the Council's backing. Not looking for your silence nor to chastise you in any way, just asking that all of us myself included try and seek approval when possible here in our own council chambers before pushing them out before the unwashed moles and mindless grunts of Javat and Steel Song. Pushing to try and bring them into alignment with our own goals and wishes is one thing, proposing a shift in our strategy or policies is another. If we have the second Colony ship built then we have leverage to push for utilizing it to colonize Leiwen or another suitable world so it does not become a further drain of resources. If we cave and leave it in "construction" then that leverage is gone as they can say it's an unnecessary expense or that we should be doing other things like pursuing pure research (leaving production idle) instead so that they have time to catch up in their own building agendas. |
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Post by En1gma on Oct 1, 2014 10:18:41 GMT -5
Some members of the council are expressing such a puzzling concern with us building new colonies... Are there any other ways people can come up with to better convince them that we are right to attempt these colonizations, or at this point is it prudent to simply trust the remaining members of the council to agree with us.
At some point we hit a wall with certain members, and can do no right, as we are being construed as being selfish and self-serving. Does anyone here think we are truly being unreasonable?
Another issue we are having its that it is getting harder and harder to convince the SS that we MUST have a colony on the outer reaches. They seem content to shove us to the rear, and yet they still expect us to come to their aid if the Xeno come.
There must be a unified and POLITE push in the Assembly to achieve these things:
- We MUST colonize a fringe system.
- We MUST convince these members (or simply drown their voices out if they persist) that our colonies will not be the drain on the economy that some are suggesting.
We must also relay to them that continued resistance to these reasonable requests will be tantamount to obstructing the good of the Alliance, and thusly, this will impact our response to any and all future requests made in the Assembly.
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Post by dragolord on Oct 1, 2014 10:35:20 GMT -5
Perhaps it might be better to shelve the question of a frontline planet until we have a clearer picture of the area? The Song will insist that they should take them all, but perhaps we should present the viewpoint that a Thulun planet would be better, both now and in the future, when the now fringe worlds will be far removed from the action?
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Post by lixxx235 on Oct 1, 2014 15:28:18 GMT -5
Here's my idea: a colony ship should always be escorting(or the other way around?) a Templar explorer ship. That way, in case any planets are found, it can be immediately colonized my either a Thulun or Steel Song colony ship. Under this proposal, Javat would have full access to most of the already-visible stellar systems.
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